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Transcript: Transcript for 22/09/2021 - Plenary
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This meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference. |
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Presiding Officer's Statement The Presiding Officer announced that Peter Fox may seek the Senedd’s
agreement on his proposal for a Food (Wales) Bill, after being successful in
the Member Bill ballot held that day. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Social Justice The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The
item started at 13.31 Questions
1-6 and question 8 were asked. Question 7 was transferred for written by the Minister
for Economy. Question 1 was answered by the Deputy Minister for Social
Partnership. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions
to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Minutes: The item started at 14.22 The first 8 questions were asked. Question 6 was withdrawn.
The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the
Minister after question 2. |
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(20 mins) |
Questions to the Senedd Commission Minutes: The
item started at 15.12 Questions
1, 3 and 4 were asked. Question 2 was withdrawn. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To
ask the Minister for Climate Change : Delyth Jewell
(South Wales East):
What assessment has the Welsh Government made of the impact of significant gas
price increases and the concurrent increase in energy prices on Welsh
consumers? Minutes: The item started at 15.21 To the Minister for Climate Change: Delyth Jewell (South
Wales East): What assessment has the Welsh Government made of the impact of
significant gas price increases and the concurrent increase in energy prices on
Welsh consumers? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The
item started at 15.36 Gareth
Davies made a statement on The 50th Anniversary of the Offa’s Dyke
Path. Heledd
Fychan made a statement on Pontypridd Green Week (18-26 September). In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 15.39 the
meeting was suspended by the Deputy Presiding Officer. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives debate – Ambulance response times NDM7779
Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) To
propose that the Senedd: 1.
Notes that just over half of red ambulance calls met the Welsh Government’s
target of eight minutes in July 2021. 2.
Further notes the immense pressure the Welsh Ambulance Service is under with
increasing transfer-of-care times of up to 18 hours. 3.
Recognises the hard work and dedication of Welsh Ambulance Service staff in
such challenging circumstances. 4.
Acknowledges the pressures in social and primary care and the knock-on effects
on the ambulance service. 5.
Calls on the Welsh Government to: a)
declare an emergency in the Welsh Ambulance Service. b)
bring forward a comprehensive plan to improve ambulance response times,
including action to: i)
ensure an adequate social care workforce; ii)
improve access to face-to-face primary care appointments; and iii)
increase hospital bed capacity. c)
set out a clear plan and timetable for raising the wage of care workers across
Wales. d)
consider engaging the support of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces to assist with
increasing ambulance response capacity. e)
redouble efforts for the rapid recruitment of paramedics. The following
amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 – Lesley
Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete all and
replace with: To propose that the
Senedd: 1. Notes that in the context of record levels of
demand, just over half of red ambulance calls met the Welsh Government’s target
in July 2021 2. Further notes
the immense pressure on all health and care services in Wales including the
Welsh Ambulance Service and the range of national and local challenges that
impact patient flow 3. Recognises the
hard work and dedication of Welsh Ambulance Service staff and all health and
care service staff in such challenging circumstances 4. Calls on the
Welsh Government to: a) ensure the
actions identified in the Emergency Ambulance Service Committee delivery plan
are delivered with pace and purpose; b) support a range
of initiatives to drive recruitment and retention within the social care sector
and provide support to social care employers; c) improve access
to face-to-face primary care appointments where clinically appropriate; d) deliver on its
Programme for Government commitment to pay care workers the real living wage; e) continue
engagement with Her Majesty’s Armed Forces to assist with increasing ambulance
response capacity; and f) redouble efforts
for the rapid recruitment of ambulance clinicians. If amendment 1 is
agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected Amendment 2 – Sian
Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new
sub-points at end of point 5: Genuinely integrate
health and care services nationally Train and recruit
6,000 additional staff into the NHS, including doctors, nurses and other allied
health professionals Minutes: The item started at 15.49 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7779
Darren Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes that just over half of red ambulance calls met the Welsh
Government’s target of eight minutes in July 2021. 2. Further notes the immense pressure the Welsh Ambulance Service
is under with increasing transfer-of-care times of up to 18 hours. 3. Recognises the hard work and dedication of Welsh Ambulance
Service staff in such challenging circumstances. 4. Acknowledges the pressures in social and primary care and the
knock-on effects on the ambulance service. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) declare an emergency in the Welsh Ambulance Service. b) bring forward a comprehensive plan to improve ambulance
response times, including action to: i) ensure an adequate social care workforce; ii) improve access to face-to-face primary care appointments; and iii) increase hospital bed capacity. c) set out a clear plan and timetable for raising the wage of care
workers across Wales. d) consider engaging the support of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces to
assist with increasing ambulance response capacity. e) redouble efforts for the rapid recruitment of paramedics.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment
1 – Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes that in the
context of record levels of demand, just over half of red ambulance calls met
the Welsh Government’s target in July 2021 2. Further notes the immense pressure on all health and care
services in Wales including the Welsh Ambulance Service and the range of
national and local challenges that impact patient flow 3. Recognises the hard work and dedication of Welsh Ambulance
Service staff and all health and care service staff in such challenging
circumstances 4. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) ensure the actions identified in the Emergency Ambulance
Service Committee delivery plan are delivered with pace and purpose; b) support a range of initiatives to drive recruitment and
retention within the social care sector and provide support to social care
employers; c) improve access to face-to-face primary care appointments where
clinically appropriate; d) deliver on its Programme for Government commitment to pay care
workers the real living wage; e) continue engagement with Her Majesty’s Armed Forces to assist
with increasing ambulance response capacity; and f) redouble efforts for the rapid recruitment of ambulance
clinicians. A vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was
agreed. As amendment 1 was
agreed, amendment 2 was de-selected. A vote was taken on
the motion as amended: NDM7779
Darren Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes that in the context
of record levels of demand, just over half of red ambulance calls met the Welsh
Government’s target in July 2021 2. Further notes the immense pressure on all health and care
services in Wales including the Welsh Ambulance Service and the range of national
and local challenges that impact patient flow 3. Recognises the hard work and dedication of Welsh Ambulance
Service staff and all health and care service staff in such challenging
circumstances 4. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) ensure the actions identified in the Emergency Ambulance
Service Committee delivery plan are delivered with pace and purpose; b) support a range of initiatives to drive recruitment and
retention within the social care sector and provide support to social care
employers; c) improve access to face-to-face primary care appointments where
clinically appropriate; d) deliver on its Programme for Government commitment to pay care
workers the real living wage; e) continue engagement with Her Majesty’s Armed Forces to assist
with increasing ambulance response capacity; and f) redouble efforts for the rapid recruitment of ambulance
clinicians.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Plaid Cymru debate – A four-day working week NDM7780
Siân Gwenllian
(Arfon) To
propose that the Senedd: 1.
Recognises the change in work practices as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic
and that this has brought with it many wellbeing and work-life balance
benefits. 2.
Believes that reforming working practices to meet the challenges of the
automation revolution is necessary. 3.
Notes with interest that governments in Scotland, Spain and Ireland are
planning national-level pilots for a four-day working week. 4.
Recognises pilots of a four-day working week in Iceland were an overwhelming
success and led to many workers moving to shorter hours with no reduction in
pay. 5.
Calls on the Welsh Government to establish a four-day working week pilot in
Wales to explore the benefits to all Welsh workers, the economy and the
environment. The
following amendments have been tabled: Amendment
1 – Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Delete
points 3, 4 and 5. If
amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected Amendment
2 – Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete
point 5 and replace with: Calls
on the Welsh Government to consider the progress that is made through pilots in
other countries and examine the lessons Wales can learn. Amendment
3 – Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add
as new point at end of motion: Believes
that working arrangements should be agreed between employers and employees and
that no workers or employers should be forced to adopt a four-day working week. Amendment
4 – Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add
as new point at end of motion: Notes
that employment matters are reserved to the UK Parliament. Minutes: The item started at 16.46 Voting on the motion
and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7780 Siân Gwenllian (Arfon) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Recognises the change in work practices as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and that this has brought with it many wellbeing and work-life balance benefits. 2. Believes that reforming working practices to meet the challenges of the automation revolution is necessary. 3. Notes with interest that governments in Scotland, Spain and Ireland are planning national-level pilots for a four-day working week. 4. Recognises pilots of a four-day working week in Iceland were an overwhelming success and led to many workers moving to shorter hours with no reduction in pay. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to establish a four-day working week pilot in Wales to explore the benefits to all Welsh workers, the economy and the environment.
The motion without
amendment was not agreed. The following
amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 – Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Delete points 3, 4 and 5. A vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was not
agreed. Amendment 2 – Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete point 5 and replace with: Calls on the Welsh Government to consider the progress that is made through pilots in other countries and examine the lessons Wales can learn. A vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was
agreed. Amendment 3 – Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Believes that working arrangements should be agreed between employers and employees and that no workers or employers should be forced to adopt a four-day working week. A vote was taken on amendment 3:
Amendment 3 was not
agreed. Amendment 4 – Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Notes that employment matters are reserved to the UK Parliament. A vote was taken on amendment 4:
Amendment 4 was not
agreed. A vote was taken on
the motion as amended: NDM7780 Siân Gwenllian (Arfon) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Recognises the change in work practices as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and that this has brought with it many wellbeing and work-life balance benefits. 2. Believes that reforming working practices to meet the challenges of the automation revolution is necessary. 3. Notes with interest that governments in Scotland, Spain and Ireland are planning national-level pilots for a four-day working week. 4. Recognises pilots of a four-day working week in Iceland were an overwhelming success and led to many workers moving to shorter hours with no reduction in pay. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to consider the progress that is made through pilots in other countries and examine the lessons Wales can learn.
The motion as
amended was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: In
accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 17.43 proceedings were suspended to
allow a technical break before voting time. The
item started at 17.48 |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM7774
Jenny Rathbone
(Cardiff Central) We
are what we eat: focusing on the nutrient density of food in order to improve
public health. Minutes: The
item started at 17.55 NDM7774
Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff Central) We
are what we eat: focusing on the nutrient density of food in order to improve
public health. |
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