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Transcript: Transcript for 09/10/2020 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee - Fifth Senedd

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1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1. The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee.

 

1.2. In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, the Chair stated that he had determined that the public were excluded from the Committee’s meeting in order to protect public health.

 

(10.00-13.00)

2.

Local Government and Elections (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 proceedings

In attendance:

Julie James MS, Minister for Housing and Local Government

Cath Wyatt, Local Government and Elections Bill Manager

 

The Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee agreed on 16 July 2020, under Standing Order 26.21, that the order of consideration for Stage 2 proceedings will be:

 

Sections 88 – 114; Schedule 9; Sections 115 – 135; Schedule 10; Section 136; Schedule 11; Section 137; Schedule 1; Sections 138 – 158; Schedule 12; Sections 159 – 161; Schedule 13; Sections 162 – 172; Long title.

 

Supporting documents:

Paper 1 – Marshalled List of Amendments

Paper 2 - Groupings of Amendments 

 

Note: The Committee met on Friday 2 October and considered and disposed of amendments to Sections 1 to 87 and Schedules 2 to 8. Those sections and Schedules have been deemed agreed.

 

Documents relevant to Stage 2 proceedings will be available on the Bill page.

 

Minutes:

2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

 

Amendment 288 (Delyth Jewell MS) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

 

Amendment 289 (Delyth Jewell MS) was not moved.

 

Amendment 39 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 39 was agreed.

 

Amendment 40 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 40 was agreed.

 

Amendment 41 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 41 was agreed.

 

Amendment 42 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 42 was agreed.

 

Amendment 43 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 43 was agreed.

 

Amendment 215 (Mark Isherwood MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Delyth Jewell

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Amendment 215 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 44 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 44 was agreed.

 

Amendment 45 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 45 was agreed.

 

Amendment 46 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 46 was agreed.

 

Amendment 47 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 47 was agreed.

 

Amendment 146 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 146 was agreed.

 

Amendment 290 (Delyth Jewell MS) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

 

Amendment 48 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 48 was agreed.

 

Amendment 216 (Mark Isherwood MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 Delyth Jewell

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Amendment 216 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 291 (Delyth Jewell MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Delyth Jewell

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Mark Isherwood

 

Amendment 291 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 49 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 49 was agreed.

 

Amendment 50 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 50 was agreed.

 

Amendment 239 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 239 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 292 (Delyth Jewell MS) was not moved.

 

Amendment 240 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 240 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 241 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 241 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 294 (Delyth Jewell MS) was not moved.

 

Amendment 51 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 242 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 242 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 52 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 86 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 87 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 88 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 88 was agreed.

 

Amendment 89 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 89 was agreed.

 

Amendment 90 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 90 was agreed.

 

Amendment 243 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 243 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 251 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 

Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 251 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 53 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 53 was agreed.

 

Amendment 54 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Caroline Jones

 

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 54 was agreed.

 

Amendment 55 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 55 was agreed.

 

Amendment 56 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 57 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 57 was agreed.

 

Amendment 58 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 147 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 91 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 254 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 254 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 59 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 59 was agreed.

 

Amendment 60 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 60 was agreed.

 

Amendment 217 (Mark Isherwood MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Delyth Jewell

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Amendment 217 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 218 (Mark Isherwood MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Isherwood

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 218 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 61 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 62 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 62 was agreed.

 

Amendment 63 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 63 was agreed.

 

Amendment 244 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 244 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 64 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 64 was agreed.

 

Amendment 148 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 148 was agreed.

 

Amendment 149 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 149 was agreed.

 

Amendment 65 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 65 was agreed.

 

Amendment 66 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Mark Isherwood

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 66 was agreed.

 

Amendment 245 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 

Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 245 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 246 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 246 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 247 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 247 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 67 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 67 was agreed.

 

Amendment 248 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 

Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 248 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 68 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 68 was agreed.

 

Amendment 69 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 69 was agreed.

 

Amendment 249 (Caroline Jones MS) fell.

 

Amendment 219 (Mark Isherwood MS) fell.

 

Amendment 70 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 70 was agreed.

 

Amendment 71 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Mark Isherwood

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 71 was agreed.

 

Amendment 72 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Mark Isherwood

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 72 was agreed.

 

Amendment 73 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 73 was agreed.

 

Amendment 74 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 74 was agreed.

 

Amendment 75 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 150 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 150 was agreed.

 

Amendment 76 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Caroline Jones

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Mark Isherwood

 

 

 Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 76 was agreed.

 

Amendment 151 (Julie James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 77 (Julie James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 Caroline Jones

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

Delyth Jewell

 

 

Amendment 77 was agreed.

 

Amendment 220 (Mark Isherwood MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 

Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 220 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 250 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 

Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 250 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 225 (Caroline Jones MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Caroline Jones

John Griffiths

 Mark Isherwood

Dawn Bowden

 

Huw Irranca-Davies

 

 

Delyth Jewell

 

Amendment 225 was not agreed.

 

(13.00)

3.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting

Minutes:

3.1 The Committee agreed the motion.

(13.00-13.05)

4.

Correspondence from Audit Wales regarding Section 118 of the Local Government & Elections (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1 The Committee considered correspondence from Audit Wales regarding Section 118 of the Local Government & Elections (Wales) Bill.