Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 3 - Senedd. View directions

Contact: Policy: Tom Jackson  Legislation: Sarah Beasley

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(14:00 - 14:05)

1.

Introductions, apologies and substitutions

Minutes:

1.1        The Chair welcomed Members and the public to the meeting.

 

1.2     Apologies had been received from Aled Roberts.

(14:05 - 14:30)

2.

Briefing from the Auditor General for Wales on the Wales Audit Office report 'The educational attainment of looked after children and young people'

PAC(4) 17-12 – Paper 1 – Wales Audit Office report ‘The educational attainment of looked after children and young people’

 

Huw Vaughan Thomas, Auditor General for Wales

Stephen Martin, Manager – Performance Audit    

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The Chair invited the Auditor General for Wales to brief the Committee on his report ‘The educational attainment of looked after children and young people’.

 

Action point:

 

The Auditor General for Wales agreed to provide:

 

·         Further details on the model used by the Scottish Government in helping looked after children and young people gain access to higher education.

3.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 4 and 7.

Minutes:

 4 and 7.

(14:30 - 14:45)

4.

Options for handling 'The educational attainment of looked after children and young people'

Minutes:

4.1 The Committee agreed to write to the Chair of the Children and Young People Committee to consider the findings of the Auditor General’s report as part of its scrutiny of forthcoming care legislation.

 

(15:00 - 16:00)

5.

Public Audit (Wales) Bill - Evidence from the Minister for Finance and Leader of the House

 

Jane Hutt AM, Minister for Finance and Leader of the House

Reg Kilpatrick, Director of Local Government & Public Service, Welsh Government

Nicola Charles, Lawyer, Welsh Government

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee took evidence from Jane Hutt, the Member in Charge of the Bill and Minister for Finance and Leader of the House; Reg Kilpatrick, Director of Local Government and Public Service, Welsh Government; and Nicola Charles, Legal Services, Welsh Government.

(16:00 - 17:00)

6.

Public Audit (Wales) Bill - Evidence from the Auditor General for Wales

PAC(4) 17-12 – Paper 2 – Auditor General for Wales

 

Huw Vaughan Thomas, Auditor General for Wales

Mike Usher, Group Director – Financial Audit

Martin Peters, Compliance Manager

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee took evidence from Huw Vaughan Thomas, Auditor General for Wales; Mike Usher, Group Director – Financial Audit, Wales Audit Office; and Martin Peters, Compliance Manager, Wales Audit Office.

 

Action point:

 

6.2 The Auditor General for Wales agreed to provide a supplementary note to the Committee on:

·         his estimate of the financial implications of the Bill, and

·         his concerns regarding TUPE arrangements for transferring staff to the new Wales Audit Office established by the Bill.

(17:00 - 17:15)

7.

Consideration of evidence on Public Audit (Wales) Bill

Minutes:

7.1 The Committee considered the evidence provided by the Minister for Finance and Leader of the House and the Auditor General for Wales as part of its Stage 1 scrutiny of the Public Audit (Wales) Bill.

8.

Papers to note

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee noted the minutes of the meeting on 17 July 2012.

Transcript

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