Concise Minutes - Children, Young People and Education Committee

Meeting Venue:

Video Conference via Zoom

Meeting date: Thursday, 14 January 2021

Meeting time: 09.15 - 13.00
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:





Members of the Senedd:

Lynne Neagle MS (Chair)

Dawn Bowden MS

Suzy Davies MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Laura Anne Jones MS


Meilyr Rowlands, Estyn

Claire Morgan, Estyn

Jassa Scott, Estyn

Eithne Hughes, Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) Cymru

Laura Doel, National Association of Headteachers NAHT Cymru (NAHT)

Rebecca Williams, Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru (UCAC)

Mary van den Heuvel, National Education Union Cymru (NEU)

Neil Butler, The National Association of Schoolmasters Union of Women Teachers (NASUWT)

Rosie Lewis, UNISON

Nicola Savage, GMB Education Lead, Wales

Committee Staff:

Llinos Madeley (Clerk)

Sarah Bartlett (Deputy Clerk)

Michael Dauncey (Researcher)

Sian Thomas (Researcher)



1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the virtual meeting of the Children, Young People and Education Committee.

1.2 In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, the Chair stated that she had determined that the public were excluded from the Committee’s meeting in order to protect public health but that the meeting would be broadcast live on

1.3 The Chair stated that if for any reason she dropped out of the meeting, the Committee agreed that Dawn Bowden MS would become Temporary Chair in accordance with Standing Order 17.22.

1.4 Apologies were received from Hefin David MS, there was no substitute.



2       Scrutiny of Estyn Annual Report 2019 - 2020 (to include matters relating to the impact of COVID-19 on education)

2.1 The Committee scrutinised Estyn on its Annual Report and on matters relating to the impact of COVID-19.


2.2 Due to lack of time the question on early years was cut short, Estyn were invited to provide a fuller response in writing should they wish.



3       Evidence session on the impact of COVID-19 on education with representatives from the trade unions

3.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives of the trade unions.



4       Papers to note

4.1 The papers were noted.





5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting

5.1 The Motion was agreed.



6       Scrutiny of Estyn Annual Report 2019 - 2020 and COVID-19 - consideration of the evidence

6.1 The Committee considered the evidence it heard in the previous sessions.



7       Curriculum and Assessment (Wales) Bill: Order of Consideration - agreement ahead of Stage 2 proceedings

7.1 Due to time constraints, arrangements for virtual Stage 2 proceedings and the Order of Consideration for the Curriculum and Assessment (Wales) Bill were agreed in writing, outside Committee.



8       Consideration of the Committee's forward work programme

8.1 Members discussed the forward work programme.



9       Education Otherwise than at School - consideration of the draft report [POSTPONED]





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