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Transcript: Transcript for 11/05/2022 - Plenary

Items
Expected timing No. Item

This meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference.

 

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice after Question 2.

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Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

The first 8 questions were asked. Questions 4 and 6 was answered by the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing. Question 8 was answered by the Deputy Minister for Social Services. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing after question 2.

 

(45 mins)

2.

Questions to the Minister for Economy

The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice after Question 2.

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Minutes:

The item started at 14.20

The first 11 questions were asked. Questions 1 and 8 were grouped together for answer. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Deputy Minister for Arts and Sport after question 2.

 

(0 mins)

3.

Topical Questions

No Topical Questions were accepted

Minutes:

No Topical Questions were accepted.

 

(5 mins)

4.

90 Second Statements

Minutes:

The item started at 15.05

Sioned Williams made a statement on - Celebrating the 10-year anniversary of the Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol.

Cefin Campbell made a statement on  - Pembrey Further Education Multisport Event on 11 May.

 

(5 mins)

Motion to elect a Member to a committee

The item started at 15.08

NNDM8000 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 17.14, elects Rhys Ab Owen (Plaid Cymru) as a member of the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee in place of Cefin Campbell (Plaid Cymru).

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

5.

Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) - The Holodomor

NNDM7994 Alun Davies (Blaenau Gwent)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that this year is the 90th anniversary of the Holodomor: the famine which killed an estimated 4-6 million people in Ukraine over 1932/33.

2. Further notes that this famine was the consequence of the deliberate actions and policies of the Soviet Union.

3. Expresses its sympathy and extends its solidarity to the people of Ukraine on behalf of the people of Wales.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to initiate a commemoration programme to remember the victims of the Holodomor and to raise awareness of the suffering of the people of Ukraine.

Co-Submitters
Rhun Ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Jane Dodds (Mid and West Wales)
Samuel Kurtz (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire)

Supporters
Janet Finch-Saunders (Aberconwy)
Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff Central)
Mark Isherwood (North Wales)
Peter Fox (Monmouth)
Vikki Howells (Cynon Valley)

Minutes:

The item started at 15.08

NNDM7994 Alun Davies (Blaenau Gwent)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that this year is the 90th anniversary of the Holodomor: the famine which killed an estimated 4-6 million people in Ukraine over 1932/33.

2. Further notes that this famine was the consequence of the deliberate actions and policies of the Soviet Union.

3. Expresses its sympathy and extends its solidarity to the people of Ukraine on behalf of the people of Wales.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to initiate a commemoration programme to remember the victims of the Holodomor and to raise awareness of the suffering of the people of Ukraine.

Co-Submitters
Rhun Ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Jane Dodds (Mid and West Wales)
Samuel Kurtz (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire)

Supporters
Janet Finch-Saunders (Aberconwy)
Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff Central)
Mark Isherwood (North Wales)
Peter Fox (Monmouth)
Vikki Howells (Cynon Valley)

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

6.

Welsh Conservatives Debate - NHS waiting lists

NDM7997 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Believes that the Welsh Government does not have an adequate plan to tackle NHS waiting list backlogs in Wales.

The following amendment was tabled:

Amendment 1 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that the Welsh Government’s planned care recovery plan published on 26 April was developed in partnership with clinicians to ensure targets were challenging but achievable.

2. Further notes that further operational detail on how the ambitions in the plan will be delivered will be set out in the NHS integrated medium term plans, which are currently being reviewed.

Transforming and modernising planned care and reducing waiting lists

Minutes:

The item started at 15.39

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM7997 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Believes that the Welsh Government does not have an adequate plan to tackle NHS waiting list backlogs in Wales.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

26

49

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendment was tabled:

Amendment 1 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that the Welsh Government’s planned care recovery plan published on 26 April was developed in partnership with clinicians to ensure targets were challenging but achievable.

2. Further notes that further operational detail on how the ambitions in the plan will be delivered will be set out in the NHS integrated medium term plans, which are currently being reviewed.

Transforming and modernising planned care and reducing waiting lists

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

25

0

24

49

Amendment 1 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM7997 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that the Welsh Government’s planned care recovery plan published on 26 April was developed in partnership with clinicians to ensure targets were challenging but achievable.

2. Further notes that further operational detail on how the ambitions in the plan will be delivered will be set out in the NHS integrated medium term plans, which are currently being reviewed.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

25

0

24

49

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

(60 mins)

7.

Plaid Cymru Debate - Alcohol-related harm

NDM7996 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that there were 438 alcohol-related deaths in Wales in 2020: the highest level in 20 years, and a 19 per cent increase from 2019..

2. Regrets the rising number of alcohol-related deaths, alcohol-related hospital admissions, and cases of alcohol dependency in Wales that disproportionately affect those at socio-economic disadvantage.

3. Notes the Welsh Government’s Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022.

4. Calls upon the Welsh Government to provide a stronger commitment, enhanced resources and measurable targets to combat alcohol-related harm within a renewed substance misuse delivery plan from 2023.

Welsh Government Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Acknowledges that there were 438 alcohol specific deaths in Wales in 2020: the highest level in 20 years, a 19 per cent increase from 2019.

2. Notes the levels of alcohol related hospital admissions and the disproportionate impact of alcohol on deprived communities.

3. Notes the Welsh Government’s Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022.

4. Welcomes the Welsh Government’s continued commitment to substance misuse by protecting and ring-fencing its funding in the budget, the £9 million increase in funding for 2022/23 and a commitment to further increases in 2023/24 and 2024/25.

[If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected]

Amendment 2 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Add as new point after point 1 and renumber accordingly:

Is concerned that the number of treatments started for substance misuse in Wales has decreased by 15 per cent in the last five years.

Minutes:

The item started at 16.36

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM7996 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes that there were 438 alcohol-related deaths in Wales in 2020: the highest level in 20 years, and a 19 per cent increase from 2019.

2. Regrets the rising number of alcohol-related deaths, alcohol-related hospital admissions, and cases of alcohol dependency in Wales that disproportionately affect those at socio-economic disadvantage.

3. Notes the Welsh Government’s Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022.

4. Calls upon the Welsh Government to provide a stronger commitment, enhanced resources and measurable targets to combat alcohol-related harm within a renewed substance misuse delivery plan from 2023.

Welsh Government Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022

For

Abstain

Against

Total

24

0

25

49

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Acknowledges that there were 438 alcohol specific deaths in Wales in 2020: the highest level in 20 years, a 19 per cent increase from 2019.

2. Notes the levels of alcohol related hospital admissions and the disproportionate impact of alcohol on deprived communities.

3. Notes the Welsh Government’s Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022.

4. Welcomes the Welsh Government’s continued commitment to substance misuse by protecting and ring-fencing its funding in the budget, the £9 million increase in funding for 2022/23 and a commitment to further increases in 2023/24 and 2024/25.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

25

0

24

49

Amendment 1 was agreed.

As amendment 1 was agreed, amendment 2 was de-selected

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM7996 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Acknowledges that there were 438 alcohol specific deaths in Wales in 2020: the highest level in 20 years, a 19 per cent increase from 2019.

2. Notes the levels of alcohol related hospital admissions and the disproportionate impact of alcohol on deprived communities.

3. Notes the Welsh Government’s Substance Misuse Delivery Plan 2019-2022.

4. Welcomes the Welsh Government’s continued commitment to substance misuse by protecting and ring-fencing its funding in the budget, the £9 million increase in funding for 2022/23 and a commitment to further increases in 2023/24 and 2024/25.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

25

0

24

49

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

(5 mins)

Motion to suspend Standing Orders

The item started at 17.18

NNDM7999 Hefin David (Caerphilly)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Orders 33.6 and 33.8:

Suspends Standing Order 12.73 to allow NDM7998 to be considered in Plenary on Wednesday 11 May 2022.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 17.19 proceedings were suspended to allow a technical break before Voting Time.

 

8.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 17.23

 

Votes Summary

Supporting documents:

(30 mins)

9.

Short Debate

NDM7998  Hefin David (Caerphilly)

Pathways from referrals to diagnosis and beyond: the challenges of living with autism and other neurodivergent conditions

 

Minutes:

The item started at 17.27

NDM7998  Hefin David (Caerphilly)  

Pathways from referrals to diagnosis and beyond: the challenges of living with autism and other neurodivergent conditions