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Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 1 - Senedd

Contact: Fay Bowen 

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Transcript: Transcript for 29/04/2019 - Public Accounts Committee

Note No. Item



Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest


1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the Committee.

1.2 Apologies were received from Vikki Howells AM. There was no substitution.




Paper(s) to note


2.1 The papers were noted.


Primary care out-of-hours service: Additional information from Cardiff & Vale University Health Board (March 2019)

Supporting documents:


Natural Resources Wales: Update from Welsh Government on implementation of Report Recommendations (April 2019)

Supporting documents:


Medicines Management: Letter from Welsh Government (April 2019)

Supporting documents:

(13.35 - 13.45)


The Welsh Government’s relationship with Pinewood: Consideration of Welsh Government's Response

PAC(5)-11-19 Paper 1 – Welsh Government Response

Supporting documents:


3.1 Members considered the response and agreed to write to the Welsh Government to obtain a copy of the lessons learnt report referred to in the response.

(13.45 - 15.15)


Primary care out-of-hours service: Evidence session with the Welsh Government

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-11-19 Paper 2 – Welsh Government


Dr Andrew Goodall – Director General HSS/Chief Executive NHS Wales

Simon Dean – Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales

Judith Paget - Chief Executive of Aneurin Bevan University Health Board, Chair of the National Primary Care Board and Strategic Lead for Out of Hours Services

Supporting documents:


­4.1 Members received evidence from Dr Andrew Goodall, Director General of Health and Social Services and Chief Executive NHS Wales; Simon Dean, Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales, and Judith Paget, Chief Executive Aneurin Bevan University Health Board as part of the inquiry into Primary Care out-of-hours service.

4.2 Dr Goodall agreed to send further information on:

·         the Primary Care Board’s evaluation of arrangements made by health boards to ensure demand was met over the winter months

·         the quality indicators that are currently being monitored




Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 6 & 7


5.1 The motion was agreed.



Primary care out-of-hours service: Consideration of evidence received


6.1 Members considered the evidence received.



Committee working practices and procedures

PAC(5)-11-19 Paper 3 – Remit paper

Supporting documents:


7.1 Member considered and noted the remit of the Committee.



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