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Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 3 - Senedd. View directions

Contact: Fay Bowen 

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Transcript: Transcript for 03/12/2018 - Public Accounts Committee

Items
Note No. Item

(13.30)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1       The temporary Chair welcomed Members to the Committee

1.2       Apologies were received from Jack Sargeant AM and Nick Ramsay AM. Darren Millar AM was present as a substitute.

1.3       The temporary Chair congratulated Nick Ramsay AM on the recent birth of his son.

(13.30 - 13.40)

2.

Paper(s) to note

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The papers were noted.

2.2 It was agreed that further clarification would be sought from National Museum Wales on the sickness absence figures.

2.1

Scrutiny of Accounts 2017-18: Additional information from the Assembly Commission (14 November 2018)

2.2

Scrutiny of Accounts 2017-18: Additional information from National Museum Wales (15 November 2018)

2.3

Scrutiny of Accounts 2017-18: Letter from the Permanent Secretary, Welsh Government (22 November 2018)

2.4

The Welsh Government’s relationship with Pinewood: Letter from the Welsh Government (22 November 2018)

(13.40 - 15.00)

3.

The Welsh Government’s Supporting People Programme: Evidence Session with the Welsh Government

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-32-18 Paper 1 - Paper from the Welsh Government

PAC(5)-32-18 Paper 2 – Letter from Community Housing Cymru

PAC(5)-32-18 Paper 3 – Letter from Cymorth Cymru

 

Tracey Burke – Director General, Education and Public Services Group, Welsh Government

Jo-Anne Daniels – Director for Communities and Tackling Poverty, Welsh Government

John Howells - Director for Housing and Regeneration, Welsh Government

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 Members received evidence from Tracey Burke, Director General, Education and Public Services Group; Jo-Anne Daniels, Director for Communities and Tackling Poverty; and John Howells, Director for Housing and Regeneration, Welsh Government, as part of their inquiry into the Welsh Government’s Supporting People Programme.

3.2 Tracey Burke agreed to:

·       Send a note clarifying the budget for the two-grant approach for 2019-20 and explaining where the previously earmarked £5m for the childcare offer has been allocated to;

·       Will check how feedback on the judgement of local authorities arising from the interim evaluation has been communicated to all local authorities;

·       Reflect and discuss with the evaluators about whether the seven local authorities involved in the pilot can be named to enable non-pathfinder local authorities to discuss the approaches taken;

·       Send a list of all the grants involved in the two-grant approach together with the budget allocated for 2019-20; and

·       Agreed to advise on the preparations undertaken regarding the impact of assessment Brexit may have on the Supporting People Programme.

3.3 In addition, Tracey Burke also agreed to identify and liaise with the Wales Audit Office to ensure all the recommendations from the AGW’s Report are fully reflected in the published guidance.

(15.00 - 15.05)

4.

Cardiff Airport: Update from the Welsh Government on the implementation of the Committee's Recommendations

PAC(5)-32-18 Paper 4 – Update from the Welsh Government

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1 Members considered the letter from the Director General, Economy, Skills and Natural Resources Group and agreed to:

·       Seek further clarification on a number of the points; and

·       Schedule an evidence session for the summer 2019 term to examine the airport’s performance together with its medium to long-term plans for future development.

(15.05)

5.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 6, 7 & 8

Minutes:

5.1 The motion was agreed.

(15.05 - 15.15)

6.

The Welsh Government’s Supporting People Programme: Consideration of evidence received

Minutes:

6.1 Members considered the evidence received and agreed to write to the Welsh Government with their conclusions and schedule an evidence session for the summer 2019 term to examine the final evaluation of the Flexible Funding Programme.

(15:15 - 15:40)

7.

Auditor General for Wales Report(s): Forward work programme

PAC(5)-32-18 Paper 5 – Auditor General for Wales’ Forward work programme

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

7.1 Members discussed the Auditor General for Wales’ Forward Work Programme and agreed to consider the proposals and return to this item at the meeting on 14 January 2019.

(15.40 - 16.00)

8.

Primary care out-of-hours service: Consideration of scoping paper

PAC(5)-32-18 Paper 6 – Scoping paper

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1 Members considered the scoping paper and agreed to undertake engagement work as detailed in the paper on 21 January 2019.

 

 

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