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Transcript: Transcript for 16/07/2018 - Public Accounts Committee - Fifth Senedd

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(13.45)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1       The Chair welcomed Members to the Committee.

1.2       Apologies were received from Neil Hamilton AM and Rhianon Passmore AM. Mike Hedges AM was present as a substitute.

(13.45 - 13.50)

2.

Paper(s) to note

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The papers were noted.

2.1

Speak my language: Overcoming language and communication barriers in public services: Auditor General for Wales Report

Supporting documents:

2.2

Housing Adaptations: Letter from the Welsh Government (10 July 2018)

Supporting documents:

2.3

The 21st Century Schools and Education Programme: Letter from the Welsh Government (10 July 2018)

Supporting documents:

2.4

The 21st Century Schools and Education Programme: Additional information from the WLGA (12 July 2018)

Supporting documents:

(13.50 - 14.50)

3.

Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Evidence Session 4

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-21-18 Paper 1 – Welsh Government

 

Dr Andrew Goodall – NHS Chief Executive/Director General - Health and Social Services, Welsh Government

Simon Dean - Deputy Chief Executive NHS, Welsh Government

Steve Elliot - Deputy Director of Finance, Welsh Government

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 Members received evidence from Dr Andrew Goodall, NHS Chief Executive/Director General, Health and Social Services; Simon Dean, Deputy Chief Executive NHS; and Steve Elliot, Deputy Director of Finance, Welsh Government as part of the inquiry into the Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014.

3.2 Dr Goodall agreed to send further information on a number of issues raised.

(15.00 - 15.45)

4.

NHS Wales Informatics Services: Evidence Session 4

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-21-18 Paper 2 – Welsh Government

PAC(5)-21-18 Paper 3 – Correspondence with Velindre NHS Trust

 

Dr Andrew Goodall – NHS Chief Executive/Director General - Health and Social Services, Welsh Government

Andrew Griffiths – Chief Executive, NWIS

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1 Members received evidence from Dr Andrew Goodall, NHS Chief Executive/Director General, Health and Social Services; Frances Duffy, Director of Primary Care, Welsh Government and Andrew Griffiths, Chief Executive, NWIS as part of the inquiry into the NHS Wales Informatics Services.

4.2 Dr Goodall and Andrew Griffiths agreed to send further information on a number of issues raised.

(15.45 - 16.45)

5.

Valedictory session: Auditor General for Wales

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-21-18 Paper 4 – Auditor General for Wales: Valedictory Reflections

 

Huw Vaughan Thomas CBE – Auditor General for Wales

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1 Members held a valedictory session with the Auditor General for Wales ahead of his retirement on 20 July 2018.

5.2 The Committee Chair recorded his thanks to Huw for all the support and advice he has provided to all the Public Accounts Committee Chairs during his tenure as Auditor General, and wished him a very happy, healthy and long retirement. He advised Members that he was making a full statement in plenary on Wednesday 20 July but as this was Huw’s last public item in Committee, wanted to record his gratitude on the record.

(16.45)

6.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 7 & 8, the meeting on 17 September 2018 and Items 1 & 2 of the meeting on 24 September 2018

Minutes:

6.1 The motion was agreed.

(16.45 - 17.00)

7.

Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Consideration of evidence received

Minutes:

7.1 Members considered the evidence received.

(17.00 - 17.15)

8.

NHS Wales Informatics Services: Consideration of evidence received

Minutes:

8.1 Members considered the evidence received.