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Transcript: Transcript for 16/09/2020 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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Statement by the Llywydd This meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some
Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The item started at
13.32 The first 9
questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask
questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Housing and Local Government The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice after Question 2. Minutes: The item started at
14.17 Questions 1-9 and 11-12 were asked. Question 10 was not asked. Questions 1 and 9 were answered by the Deputy Minister for Housing and Local Government. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 Mins) |
Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services - Local coronavirus restrictions in Caerphilly Borough and Rhondda Cynon Taf Minutes: The item started at
15.12 |
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Topical Questions No Topical Questions have been accepted. Minutes: No Topical
Questions were accepted. |
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90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
16.01 Jack Sargeant made
a statement on World Suicide Prevention Day. Helen Mary Jones
made a statement on 40 years of CYCA cycaonline.org which provides services for
children and young people in Carmarthenshire. Darren Millar made
a statement on 80th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain. At
16.07, in accordance with Standing Order 12.18, the Presiding Officer suspended
the meeting until 16.22. |
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Motion under Standing Order 10.5 to appoint the Chair of the Wales Audit Office NDM7374 Llyr
Gruffydd (North Wales) To propose that the Senedd, in accordance
with paragraph 5(1) to Schedule 1 of the Public Audit (Wales) Act 2013, and
under Standing Order 10.5: Appoints Lindsay Foyster as Chair of the
Wales Audit Office from 17 October 2020 until 15 March 2023. Note: The Finance Committee’s report on the
Appointment of the Non-Executive Members and Chair of the Wales Audit Office
was laid
in the Table Office on 9 September 2020. Minutes: The item started at 16.22 NDM7374 Llyr Gruffydd (North Wales) To propose that the Senedd, in accordance
with paragraph 5(1) to Schedule 1 of the Public Audit (Wales) Act 2013, and
under Standing Order 10.5: Appoints Lindsay Foyster as Chair of the
Wales Audit Office from 17 October 2020 until 15 March 2023. Note: The Finance Committee’s report on the
Appointment of the Non-Executive Members and Chair of the Wales Audit Office
was laid in the Table
Office on 9 September 2020. The motion was
agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(0 mins) |
Motion to establish a committee under Standing Order 16.3: The Llywydd's Committee - WITHDRAWN NDM7375 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the Senedd, in accordance
with Standing Order 16.3: establishes the Llywydd’s Committee to
carry out the functions set out in Standing Order 18B.2. Minutes: The
item was withdrawn |
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(60 mins) |
Debate on the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee report: Benefits in Wales - options for better delivery NDM7373 John
Griffiths (Newport East) To propose that the Senedd: Notes the report of the Equality, Local
Government and Communities Committee, 'Benefits in Wales - options for better
delivery', which was laid
in the Table Office on 24 October 2019. Note: Responses from the Welsh Government
were laid in the Table Office on 6
December 2019 and 9
September 2020. Minutes: The item started at 16.24 NDM7373 John Griffiths (Newport East) To propose that the Senedd: Notes the report of the Equality, Local
Government and Communities Committee, 'Benefits in Wales - options for better
delivery', which was laid in the Table
Office on 24 October 2019. Note: Responses from the Welsh Government
were laid in the Table Office on 6 December 2019 and 9 September 2020. The motion was
agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives Debate - COVID-19 Prevention Measures NDM7376 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: Calls upon the Welsh Government to: a) extend the mandatory use of face
coverings to include airports, shops, supermarkets, shopping centres, hospitals
and other healthcare settings; b) use local coronavirus restrictions in
response to significant increases in Covid-19 infection rates in a proportionate
manner to avoid a full Wales-wide lockdown; c) require all travellers entering Wales
from overseas to undertake a Covid-19 test on arrival at Cardiff Airport. The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment
1 Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete
sub-point (a). Amendment
2 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Delete
sub-point (c) and replace with: 'calls
on the Welsh Government to review the effectiveness of measures to contain the
spread of COVID-19 in relation to international travel to date and to implement
any lessons learned.' [If
Amendment 2 is agreed, Amendment 3 will be de-selected] Amendment
3 Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete
sub-point (c) and replace with 'test people returning to Wales from non-exempt
countries with a higher incidence rate of COVID 19 than Wales, in accordance
with current advice from the Technical Advisory Group'. Amendment
4 Caroline Jones (South
Wales West)
Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
upon the Welsh Government to secure accommodation to enable travellers and
those without the facilities to quarantine in isolation. Amendment
5 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to make face coverings mandatory in communal areas of
specific education settings. Amendment
6 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to introduce a new COVID-19 plan for Wales to provide
an updated, holistic framework for dealing with the pandemic during the coming
period. Amendment
7 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to urgently address issues with the current testing
regime and to work towards introducing mass daily testing. Amendment
8 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to explore the use of ‘smart lockdowns’ in response to
localised clusters, limiting restrictions to as local an area as possible. Minutes: The
item started at 17.05 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7376 Darren Millar (Clwyd
West) To propose that the Senedd: Calls upon the Welsh Government to: a) extend the mandatory use of face coverings to include airports,
shops, supermarkets, shopping centres, hospitals and other healthcare settings; b) use local coronavirus restrictions in response to significant
increases in Covid-19 infection rates in a proportionate manner to avoid a full
Wales-wide lockdown; c) require all travellers entering Wales from overseas to undertake a
Covid-19 test on arrival at Cardiff Airport.
The motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete sub-point (a). A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was agreed. Amendment 2 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Delete sub-point (c) and replace with: 'calls on the Welsh Government to review the effectiveness of measures
to contain the spread of COVID-19 in relation to international travel to date
and to implement any lessons learned.' A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was not agreed. Amendment 3 Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete sub-point (c) and replace with 'test people returning to Wales from
non-exempt countries with a higher incidence rate of COVID 19 than Wales, in
accordance with current advice from the Technical Advisory Group'. A
vote was taken on amendment 3:
Amendment 3 was agreed. Amendment 4 Caroline Jones (South
Wales West) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls upon the Welsh Government to secure accommodation to enable
travellers and those without the facilities to quarantine in isolation. A
vote was taken on amendment 4:
Amendment 4 was not agreed. Amendment 5 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to make face coverings mandatory in
communal areas of specific education settings. A
vote was taken on amendment 5:
Amendment 5 was not agreed. Amendment 6 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to introduce a new COVID-19 plan for
Wales to provide an updated, holistic framework for dealing with the pandemic
during the coming period. A
vote was taken on amendment 6:
Amendment 6 was not agreed. Amendment 7 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to urgently address issues with the
current testing regime and to work towards introducing mass daily testing. A
vote was taken on amendment 7:
Amendment 7 was not agreed. Amendment 8 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to explore the use of ‘smart lockdowns’
in response to localised clusters, limiting restrictions to as local an area as
possible. A
vote was taken on amendment 8:
Amendment 8 was not agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7376 Darren Millar (Clwyd
West) To propose that the Senedd: Calls upon the Welsh Government to: a) use local coronavirus restrictions in response to significant
increases in Covid-19 infection rates in a proportionate manner to avoid a full
Wales-wide lockdown; b) test people returning to Wales from non-exempt countries with a
higher incidence rate of COVID 19 than Wales, in accordance with current advice
from the Technical Advisory Group'.
The motion as amended was agreed. At
18.04, in accordance with Standing Order 12.18, the Presiding Officer suspended
the meeting until 18.12. |
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(60 mins) |
Brexit Party Debate - UK Internal Market Bill NDM7372 Mark
Reckless (South Wales East) To propose that the Senedd: Welcomes the United Kingdom Internal Market
Bill. United
Kingdom Internal Market Bill The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Delete
all and replace with: Welcomes
some parts of the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill which rightly repatriate
important powers from the EU to the UK. [If
amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected] Amendment
2 Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the Senedd: Believes
that the UK Government’s Internal Market Bill represents a comprehensive
assault on the devolution settlement which, if enacted, would severely
undermine the powers of the Senedd to protect and promote the interests of the
people of Wales. [If
amendment 2 is agreed, amendments 3 will be de-selected] Amendment
3 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the Senedd agrees that the UK Government’s Internal Market Bill is
a direct assault on Welsh nationhood and democracy. Amendment
4 Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales)
Add
as new point to the end of the motion: Regrets
those parts of the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill which propose further
devolution of powers to the Senedd and Welsh Government as, on the evidence of
the last 20 years, the Welsh Government is likely to use them to increase
regulation, restrict freedoms and undermine the competitiveness of the Welsh
economy. Amendment 5 Neil Hamilton Mid and West Wales) Add
as new point at the end of the motion: Believes that, as part of a wider plan to remedy the unsatisfactory results of devolution by, in particular, democratising the NHS and creating more local autonomy in education, and while retaining the elements of the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill which assist in rightly repatriating powers from the EU to the UK, the Senedd should be scrapped. Amendment
6 Gareth Bennett (South
Wales Central)
Add
as new point at end of motion: Believes
that the powers repatriated by the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill should
not be devolved to Wales given the failure that the Welsh Government and Senedd
have shown with the current devolved powers that they have. Amendment
7 Gareth Bennett (South
Wales Central)
Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
for a binding referendum on whether to keep or abolish the devolved government
and parliament of Wales, in light of the proposed aims of the United Kingdom
Internal Market Bill. Amendment
8 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to explore independence in order to protect Welsh
democracy in light of the UK Government’s Internal Market Bill. Minutes: The
item started at 18.12 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7372 Mark Reckless (South
Wales East) To propose that the Senedd: Welcomes the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill. United Kingdom Internal
Market Bill
The motion without amendment was not
agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 Neil Hamilton (Mid and West
Wales) Delete all and replace with: Welcomes some parts of the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill which
rightly repatriate important powers from the EU to the UK. A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was not agreed. Amendment 2 Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the Senedd: Believes that the UK Government’s Internal Market Bill represents a
comprehensive assault on the devolution settlement which, if enacted, would
severely undermine the powers of the Senedd to protect and promote the
interests of the people of Wales. A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was agreed. As amendment 2 was agreed, amendment 3 was
de-selected Amendment 4 Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales) Add as new point to the end of the motion: Regrets those parts of the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill which
propose further devolution of powers to the Senedd and Welsh Government as, on
the evidence of the last 20 years, the Welsh Government is likely to use them
to increase regulation, restrict freedoms and undermine the competitiveness of
the Welsh economy. A
vote was taken on amendment 4:
Amendment 4 was not agreed. Amendment 5 Neil Hamilton Mid and West Wales) Add as new point at the end of the motion: Believes that, as part of a wider plan to remedy the unsatisfactory
results of devolution by, in particular, democratising the NHS and creating
more local autonomy in education, and while retaining the elements of the
United Kingdom Internal Market Bill which assist in rightly repatriating powers
from the EU to the UK, the Senedd should be scrapped. A
vote was taken on amendment 5:
Amendment 5 was not agreed. Amendment 6 Gareth Bennett (South
Wales Central) Add as new point at end of motion: Believes that the powers repatriated by the United Kingdom Internal
Market Bill should not be devolved to Wales given the failure that the Welsh
Government and Senedd have shown with the current devolved powers that they
have. A
vote was taken on amendment 6:
Amendment 6 was not agreed. Amendment 7 Gareth Bennett (South
Wales Central) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls for a binding referendum on whether to
keep or abolish the devolved government and parliament of Wales, in light of
the proposed aims of the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill. A
vote was taken on amendment 7:
Amendment 7 was not agreed. Amendment 8 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to explore independence in order to
protect Welsh democracy in light of the UK Government’s Internal Market Bill. A
vote was taken on amendment 8:
Amendment 8 was not agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7372 Mark Reckless (South
Wales East) To propose that the Senedd: Believes that the UK Government’s Internal Market Bill represents a
comprehensive assault on the devolution settlement which, if enacted, would
severely undermine the powers of the Senedd to protect and promote the
interests of the people of Wales.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: In
accordance with Standing Order 34.14D, at 19.16 proceedings were suspended to
allow a technical break before voting time. The
item started at 19.26 |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM7371 David
Melding (South Wales Central) The need for a fire safety fund in Wales to offer assistance to leaseholders. Minutes: The
item started at 19.43 NDM7371 David Melding (South
Wales Central) The need for a fire safety fund in Wales to offer assistance to
leaseholders. |