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Transcript: Transcript for 20/11/2019 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd

Items
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(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd

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Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

Questions 1 to 3 and 5 to 9 were asked. Question 4 was not asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2.

 

 

(45 mins)

2.

Questions to the Minister for International Relations and Welsh Language

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Minutes:

The item started at 14.17

The first 7 questions were asked. Questions 4 to 6 were answered by the Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2.

 

 

(30 mins)

3.

Questions to the Assembly Commission

Minutes:

The item started at 15.04

All 4 questions were asked.

 

 

(20 mins)

4.

Topical Questions

To ask the Minister for Housing and Local Government:

 

David Melding (South Wales Central): Will the Welsh Government make a statement on the fire safety of student accommodation in Wales following last week's fire at the University of Bolton?

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.15

To ask the Minister for Housing and Local Government

David Melding (South Wales Central): Will the Welsh Government make a statement on the fire safety of student accommodation in Wales following last week's fire at the University of Bolton?

 

 

(5 mins)

5.

90 Second Statements

Minutes:

The item started at 15.27

Joyce Watson made a statement on Marking International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women (25 November).

John Griffiths made a statement on The work of Colegau Cymru who had their 10 year anniversary this week.

Rhun ap Iorwerth made a statement on the Plastic Promise (Part of the Girls for the Future Girlguides Campaign).

 

 

(30 mins)

6.

Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal - Workplace Parking Levy

NDM7188 Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff Central)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes a proposal for a Bill to enable the implementation of a workplace parking levy.

2. Notes that the purpose of this Bill would be to:

a) enable local authorities to implement a workplace parking levy, dependent on the number of parking spaces reserved for employees;

b) enable local authorities to use the revenue to strengthen public transport and active travel routes;

c) reduce traffic congestion in major population centres;

d) encourage employers to promote active travel plans for their staff and advocate for better public transport;

e) urge Welsh Government to encourage local authorities in Wales to implement this levy, as part of a suite of measures to combat the carbon emissions which are causing a climate emergency.

 

Minutes:

 

The item started at 15.32

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM7188 Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff Central)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes a proposal for a Bill to enable the implementation of a workplace parking levy.

2. Notes that the purpose of this Bill would be to:

a) enable local authorities to implement a workplace parking levy, dependent on the number of parking spaces reserved for employees;

b) enable local authorities to use the revenue to strengthen public transport and active travel routes;

c) reduce traffic congestion in major population centres;

d) encourage employers to promote active travel plans for their staff and advocate for better public transport;

e) urge Welsh Government to encourage local authorities in Wales to implement this levy, as part of a suite of measures to combat the carbon emissions which are causing a climate emergency.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

20

14

46

The motion was not agreed.

 

(60 mins)

7.

Welsh Conservatives Debate - Hospice and Palliative Care

NDM7193 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the Cross Party Group on Hospices and Palliative Care’s report on Inequalities in Access to Hospice and Palliative Care.

2. Acknowledges that approximately 23,000 people in Wales have a palliative care need at any one time, including over 1,000 children.

3. Recognises that whilst some progress has been made in widening access to hospice and palliative care in Wales, there remains significant unmet need and under-met need, and calls on the Welsh Government to address this.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to:

a) outline how Wales will become a 'compassionate country';

b) ensure that strengthening the provision of palliative care services in Wales is made central to this approach;

c) provide consistent reporting criteria, and address gaps in data collection on adult and paediatric palliative care needs;

d) update the funding mechanism for charitable hospices so that it is based on current local population need and prevalence data;

e) increase the level of statutory funding provided to adult and children’s hospices in Wales. 

Cross Party Group on Hospices and Palliative Care,  Inequalities in Access to Hospice and Palliative Care, July 2018

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete all after point 2 and replace with:

Recognises that progress has been made in widening access to hospice and palliative care in Wales and that further work is needed to establish any unmet need

Notes that the Welsh Government will:

a) continue to work with statutory and third sector partners to deliver on the ambition of making Wales the world’s first 'compassionate country';

b) ensure that strengthening the provision of palliative care services in Wales is made central to this approach;

c) provide consistent reporting criteria, and address gaps in data collection on adult and paediatric palliative care needs;

d) continue to monitor the mechanism of funding for charitable hospices working with the end of life board and health boards;

e)  continue to monitor and review funding provided to adult and children’s hospices in Wales.

[If Amendment 1 is agreed amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected]

Amendment 2 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Add as new sub-point at end of point 4:

ensure carers receive the support they need both during and after they have cared for somebody receiving palliative care.

Amendment 3 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Add as new sub-point at end of point 4:

ensure that provision of a variety of services is available in all parts of Wales so that the choices of the individual over the type and location of palliative care they receive can be respected.

 

 

Minutes:

 

The item started at 15.59

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM7193 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the Cross Party Group on Hospices and Palliative Care’s report on Inequalities in Access to Hospice and Palliative Care.

2. Acknowledges that approximately 23,000 people in Wales have a palliative care need at any one time, including over 1,000 children.

3. Recognises that whilst some progress has been made in widening access to hospice and palliative care in Wales, there remains significant unmet need and under-met need, and calls on the Welsh Government to address this.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to:

a) outline how Wales will become a 'compassionate country';

b) ensure that strengthening the provision of palliative care services in Wales is made central to this approach;

c) provide consistent reporting criteria, and address gaps in data collection on adult and paediatric palliative care needs;

d) update the funding mechanism for charitable hospices so that it is based on current local population need and prevalence data;

e) increase the level of statutory funding provided to adult and children’s hospices in Wales. 

For

Abstain

Against

Total

14

0

33

47

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete all after point 2 and replace with:

Recognises that progress has been made in widening access to hospice and palliative care in Wales and that further work is needed to establish any unmet need

Notes that the Welsh Government will:

a) continue to work with statutory and third sector partners to deliver on the ambition of making Wales the world’s first 'compassionate country';

b) ensure that strengthening the provision of palliative care services in Wales is made central to this approach;

c) provide consistent reporting criteria, and address gaps in data collection on adult and paediatric palliative care needs;

d) continue to monitor the mechanism of funding for charitable hospices working with the end of life board and health boards;

e)  continue to monitor and review funding provided to adult and children’s hospices in Wales.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

28

0

19

47

Amendment 1 was agreed.

As Amendment 1 was agreed amendments 2 and 3 were de-selected

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM7193 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the Cross Party Group on Hospices and Palliative Care’s report on Inequalities in Access to Hospice and Palliative Care.

2. Acknowledges that approximately 23,000 people in Wales have a palliative care need at any one time, including over 1,000 children.

3. Recognises that progress has been made in widening access to hospice and palliative care in Wales and that further work is needed to establish any unmet need

4. Notes that the Welsh Government will:

a) continue to work with statutory and third sector partners to deliver on the ambition of making Wales the world’s first 'compassionate country';

b) ensure that strengthening the provision of palliative care services in Wales is made central to this approach;

c) provide consistent reporting criteria, and address gaps in data collection on adult and paediatric palliative care needs;

d) continue to monitor the mechanism of funding for charitable hospices working with the end of life board and health boards;

e)  continue to monitor and review funding provided to adult and children’s hospices in Wales.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

11

9

47

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

(60 mins)

8.

Plaid Cymru Debate - Rolling Stock

NDM7195 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the recommendation of the Enterprise and Business Committee of the Fourth Assembly in 2013 that the Welsh Government should "develop and publish a rolling stock strategy as a matter of urgency, not only to ensure pressing decisions on rolling stock compatibility for electrification and accessibility legislation are taken in good time to avoid the increased cost and disruption associated with delay, but also to enhance the future capacity and quality of trains for the long-term".

2. Regrets the Welsh Government’s failure:

a) to take appropriate action to address the issues highlighted as long ago as 2013 in relation to rolling stock;

b) to meet the persons with reduced mobility (PRM) compliance deadline in relation to its rolling stock;

c) to make a timely request to the UK Government's Department for Transport for the requisite dispensation to keep non-PRM compliant trains in service from January 2020.

3. Expresses concern at the ongoing disruption experienced by many Transport for Wales rail passengers on a daily basis.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to give assurance that it has contingency plans in place to mitigate the potential loss of a large proportion of its fleet.

Enterprise and Business Committee, The Future of the Wales and Borders Rail Franchise, December 2013

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete all after “National Assembly for Wales” and replace with:

1. Welcomes the £5bn investment being made in the Welsh rail network over the next 15 years including more than £800m in rolling stock.

2. Notes the UK-wide challenges facing the rail industry in relation to PRM compliance, impacting franchises across the UK.

3. Recognises one of the main reasons for rolling stock shortages is the UK Government’s short-sighted decision to truncate its electrification programme, including to Swansea, leading to delays in the availability of rolling stock.

4. Calls on the UK Government to ensure the general election does not interfere with requests for PRM derogations to allow additional capacity to run on the network for a short period into 2020.

5. Notes the rolling stock system across the UK is broken and calls for the UK Government to work with the devolved administrations to develop a new model.

Amendment 2 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Notes that responsibility for provision of rolling stock capacity for Welsh services and Wales-only services under the railway franchise that was operated by Arriva Trains Wales was a matter for the Welsh Government since 2006.

 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.52

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM7195 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the recommendation of the Enterprise and Business Committee of the Fourth Assembly in 2013 that the Welsh Government should "develop and publish a rolling stock strategy as a matter of urgency, not only to ensure pressing decisions on rolling stock compatibility for electrification and accessibility legislation are taken in good time to avoid the increased cost and disruption associated with delay, but also to enhance the future capacity and quality of trains for the long-term".

2. Regrets the Welsh Government’s failure:

a) to take appropriate action to address the issues highlighted as long ago as 2013 in relation to rolling stock;

b) to meet the persons with reduced mobility (PRM) compliance deadline in relation to its rolling stock;

c) to make a timely request to the UK Government's Department for Transport for the requisite dispensation to keep non-PRM compliant trains in service from January 2020.

3. Expresses concern at the ongoing disruption experienced by many Transport for Wales rail passengers on a daily basis.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to give assurance that it has contingency plans in place to mitigate the potential loss of a large proportion of its fleet.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

11

0

36

47

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete all after “National Assembly for Wales” and replace with:

1. Welcomes the £5bn investment being made in the Welsh rail network over the next 15 years including more than £800m in rolling stock.

2. Notes the UK-wide challenges facing the rail industry in relation to PRM compliance, impacting franchises across the UK.

3. Recognises one of the main reasons for rolling stock shortages is the UK Government’s short-sighted decision to truncate its electrification programme, including to Swansea, leading to delays in the availability of rolling stock.

4. Calls on the UK Government to ensure the general election does not interfere with requests for PRM derogations to allow additional capacity to run on the network for a short period into 2020.

5. Notes the rolling stock system across the UK is broken and calls for the UK Government to work with the devolved administrations to develop a new model.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

31

0

16

47

Amendment 1 was agreed.

Amendment 2 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Notes that responsibility for provision of rolling stock capacity for Welsh services and Wales-only services under the railway franchise that was operated by Arriva Trains Wales was a matter for the Welsh Government since 2006.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

16

4

27

47

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM7195 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Welcomes the £5bn investment being made in the Welsh rail network over the next 15 years including more than £800m in rolling stock.

2. Notes the UK-wide challenges facing the rail industry in relation to PRM compliance, impacting franchises across the UK.

3. Recognises one of the main reasons for rolling stock shortages is the UK Government’s short-sighted decision to truncate its electrification programme, including to Swansea, leading to delays in the availability of rolling stock.

4. Calls on the UK Government to ensure the general election does not interfere with requests for PRM derogations to allow additional capacity to run on the network for a short period into 2020.

5. Notes the rolling stock system across the UK is broken and calls for the UK Government to work with the devolved administrations to develop a new model.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

31

0

16

47

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

 

9.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 17.45

 

 

Votes Summary

Supporting documents:

10.

Short Debate - Postponed to 8 January 2020

NDM7194 Suzy Davies (South Wales West)

Trilingual Wales: The value to Wales of teaching modern foreign languages.