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Agenda and minutes

Venue: Y Siambr - Y_Senedd. View directions

Note: 202(v4) 

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Transcript: Transcript for 03/04/2019 - Plenary

Items
Note No. Item

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd

The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice after Question 2.

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Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2.

(45 mins)

2.

Questions to the Minister for International Relations and Welsh Language

The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice after Question 2.

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Minutes:

The item started at 14.18

The first 7 questions were asked. Questions 1 and 6 were answered by the Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2.

(30 mins)

3.

Questions to the Assembly Commission

Minutes:

The item started at 15.08

All 4 questions were asked.

 

(20 mins)

4.

Topical Questions

To ask the Minister for Health and Social Services

 

Lynne Neagle (Torfaen): Will the Minister provide an update on access to CAMHS inpatient care for high risk children and young people in Wales?

 

To ask the Minister for Economy and Transport

 

Helen Mary Jones (Mid and West Wales): What recent discussions has the Minister had regarding the future of the Trostre plant in Llanelli?

 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.22

 

To ask the Minister for Health and Social Services

 

Lynne Neagle (Torfaen): Will the Minister provide an update on access to CAMHS inpatient care for high risk children and young people in Wales?

 

To ask the Minister for Economy and Transport

 

Helen Mary Jones (Mid and West Wales): What recent discussions has the Minister had regarding the future of the Trostre plant in Llanelli?

 

(5 mins)

5.

90 Second Statements

Minutes:

The item started at 15.53

Mick Antoniw made a statement recognising the heroic actions of Welshman, Captain Archibald Dickson who eighty years ago (on 28 March 1939) saved more than 2,600 Spanish people amid the chaotic scenes at the end of the Spanish civil war.

Mohammad Asghar made a statement on the Christchurch mosque attacks and community safety in Wales.

Helen Mary Jones made a statement on the Team UK selection for WorldSkills 2019 in Kazan.

 

Motion to suspend Standing Orders 11.16 and 12.20 (i) to allow the report of the Standards Committee to be debated (5 mins)

The item started at 15.58

NDM7033 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Orders 33.6 and 33.8:

Suspends Standing Order 12.20(i) and that part of Standing Order 11.16 that requires the weekly announcement under Standing Order 11.11 to constitute the timetable for business in Plenary for the following week, to allow the next item of business to be considered in Plenary on Wednesday, 3 April 2019.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Debate on the Standards of Conduct Committee's Report 01-19 laid before the Assembly on 1 April 2019 in accordance with Standing Order 22.9 (15 mins)

The item started at 15.59

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM7032 Jayne Bryant (Newport West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Considers the Report of the Standards of Conduct Committee - Report 01-19 laid before the Assembly on 1 April 2019 in accordance with Standing Order 22.9

2. Endorses the recommendations in the report.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

48

1

1

50

The motion was agreed.

(30 mins)

6.

Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal - Child Victims of Sexual Abuse

NDM7021 Bethan Sayed (South Wales West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes a proposal for a bill to reform and improve support for child victims of sexual abuse in Wales.

2. Notes that the purpose of this bill would be to:

a) introduce the Barnahus Model of therapeutic led support for victims;

b) work with police to use the Barnahus Model of investigation in all cases of child sexual abuse; and

c) introduce statutory changes to improve emergency and temporary accommodation for abused children who cannot return to their home or are homeless.

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.13

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM7021 Bethan Sayed (South Wales West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes a proposal for a bill to reform and improve support for child victims of sexual abuse in Wales.

2. Notes that the purpose of this bill would be to:

a) introduce the Barnahus Model of therapeutic led support for victims;

b) work with police to use the Barnahus Model of investigation in all cases of child sexual abuse; and

c) introduce statutory changes to improve emergency and temporary accommodation for abused children who cannot return to their home or are homeless.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

29

18

2

49

The motion was agreed.

(60 mins)

7.

Debate on the Finance Committee report: The Implementation of Fiscal Devolution in Wales

NDM7030 Llyr Gruffydd (North Wales)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes the report of the Finance Committee, The implementation of fiscal devolution in Wales (2019), which was laid in the Table Office on 27 March 2019.

Supporter
Sian Gwenllian (Arfon)

 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.36

NDM7030 Llyr Gruffydd (North Wales)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes the report of the Finance Committee, The implementation of fiscal devolution in Wales (2019), which was laid in the Table Office on 27 March 2019.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

(60 mins)

8.

Welsh Conservatives debate - Community Mental Health Teams

NDM7028 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the Health Inspectorate Wales and Care Inspectorate Wales Joint Thematic Review of Community Mental Health Teams.

2. Further notes the increasing number of referrals to community mental health teams across Wales.

3. Regrets the lack of parity between physical health and mental health services.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to improve the support provided by and access to community mental health teams, including:

a) increasing spending on mental health services in real terms each and every year until the end of the Assembly term;

b) ensuring that crisis teams are available 24/7 in all major emergency departments;

c) urgently working with health boards to improve community mental health facilities for service users and staff; and

d) raising awareness over access to community mental health teams so service users can get the best advice possible.

'Health Inspectorate Wales and Care Inspectorate Wales Joint Thematic Review of Community Mental Health Teams'

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete points 3 and 4 and replace with:

Recognises the need to ensure parity between physical and mental health services;

Calls on the Welsh Government to improve the support provided by and access to community mental health teams, including:

a) continuing to increase spending on mental health services in real terms each and every year until the end of the Assembly term, subject to the outcome of the 2019 spending review;

b) ensuring arrangements are in place to respond to mental health crisis 24/7 in all major emergency departments;

c) urgently working with health boards to improve community mental health facilities for service users and staff; and

d) raising awareness over access to community mental health teams so service users can get the best advice possible.

Amendment 2 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

In point 4, add as new sub-point at end of point 4:

publishing meaningful performance data on waiting times, including by age groups and diagnosis, so that claims of improvement can be independently verified.

Amendment 3 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

In point 4, add as new sub-point at end of point 4:

ensuring that community mental health teams liaise with welfare rights services to protect vulnerable people against DWP assessments and decision making processes that can often exacerbate mental health conditions.

 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 17.17

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM7028 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the Health Inspectorate Wales and Care Inspectorate Wales Joint Thematic Review of Community Mental Health Teams.

2. Further notes the increasing number of referrals to community mental health teams across Wales.

3. Regrets the lack of parity between physical health and mental health services.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to improve the support provided by and access to community mental health teams, including:

a) increasing spending on mental health services in real terms each and every year until the end of the Assembly term;

b) ensuring that crisis teams are available 24/7 in all major emergency departments;

c) urgently working with health boards to improve community mental health facilities for service users and staff;

d) raising awareness over access to community mental health teams so service users can get the best advice possible.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

15

0

35

50

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete points 3 and 4 and replace with:

Recognises the need to ensure parity between physical and mental health services;

Calls on the Welsh Government to improve the support provided by and access to community mental health teams, including:

a) continuing to increase spending on mental health services in real terms each and every year until the end of the Assembly term, subject to the outcome of the 2019 spending review;

b) ensuring arrangements are in place to respond to mental health crisis 24/7 in all major emergency departments;

c) urgently working with health boards to improve community mental health facilities for service users and staff; and

d) raising awareness over access to community mental health teams so service users can get the best advice possible.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

7

15

49

Amendment 1 was agreed.

Amendment 2 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

In point 4, add as new sub-point at end of point 4:

publishing meaningful performance data on waiting times, including by age groups and diagnosis, so that claims of improvement can be independently verified.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

0

28

50

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

Amendment 3 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

In point 4, add as new sub-point at end of point 4:

ensuring that community mental health teams liaise with welfare rights services to protect vulnerable people against DWP assessments and decision making processes that can often exacerbate mental health conditions.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

49

0

1

50

Amendment 3 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM7028 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes the Health Inspectorate Wales and Care Inspectorate Wales Joint Thematic Review of Community Mental Health Teams.

2. Further notes the increasing number of referrals to community mental health teams across Wales.

3. Recognises the need to ensure parity between physical and mental health services;

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to improve the support provided by and access to community mental health teams, including:

a) continuing to increase spending on mental health services in real terms each and every year until the end of the Assembly term, subject to the outcome of the 2019 spending review;

b) ensuring arrangements are in place to respond to mental health crisis 24/7 in all major emergency departments;

c) urgently working with health boards to improve community mental health facilities for service users and staff;

d) raising awareness over access to community mental health teams so service users can get the best advice possible; and

e) ensuring that community mental health teams liaise with welfare rights services to protect vulnerable people against DWP assessments and decision making processes that can often exacerbate mental health conditions.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

46

0

4

50

The motion as amended was agreed.

9.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 18.11

Votes Summary

Supporting documents:

(30 mins)

10.

Short Debate

NDM7027 Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Who benefits from social housing?

 

Minutes:

The item started at 18.15

NDM7027 Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

Who benefits from social housing?

 

 

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