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Transcript: Transcript for 09/05/2018 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Energy, Planning and Rural Affairs The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The
item started at 13.30 Questions
1-4 and 6-9 were asked. Question 5 was withdrawn. Questions 2, 6 and 9 were
answered by the Minister for Environment. The Presiding Officer invited party
spokespeople to ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary and the Minister after
question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public Services The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 3. Minutes: The
item started at 14.18 Questions
1, 3-7 and 9 were asked. Questions 2 and 8 were withdrawn. Question 6 was
answered by the Minister for Housing and Regeneration. The Presiding Officer
invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary and the
Minister after question 3. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To ask the
Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Transport: Suzy
Davies (South Wales West): Will the Cabinet Secretary make a statement following
Virgin Media's decision to close its call centre in Swansea resulting in the
loss of over 700 jobs? To ask the Minister for
Housing and Regeneration. Hefin
David (Caerphilly): What discussions has the Welsh Government had with
the UK Government regarding the proposed centralisation of existing Department
of Work and Pensions jobs at Treforest industrial estate? Minutes: The item started at
15.08 To ask the Cabinet Secretary for Economy
and Transport: Suzy Davies (South Wales West): Will the Cabinet Secretary make a
statement following Virgin Media's decision to close its call centre in Swansea
resulting in the loss of over 700 jobs? To ask the Minister for Housing and
Regeneration: Hefin David (Caerphilly): What discussions has the Welsh Government
had with the UK Government regarding the proposed centralisation of existing
Department of Work and Pensions jobs at Treforest industrial estate? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
15.49 Vikki Howells made
a statement on Dystonia Awareness Week (5–13 May). Jayne Bryant made a
statement on Lady Rhondda, following the 60th Anniversary on the
Life Peerages Act the previous week. |
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(60 mins) |
Debate on the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee report: Apprenticeships in Wales NDM6716 Russell
George (Montgomeryshire) The
National Assembly for Wales: Notes
the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee’s report into Apprenticeships
in Wales which was laid
in the Table Office on 14 February 2018. Note:
The response by the Welsh Government was laid
on 1 May 2018. Minutes: The item started at 15.52 NDM6716 Russell George (Montgomeryshire) The National
Assembly for Wales: Notes the Economy,
Infrastructure and Skills Committee’s report into Apprenticeships in Wales
which was laid in the Table
Office on 14 February 2018. The motion was agreed in accordance with
Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives debate – Land transaction tax on commercial land NDM6719 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that the new six per cent rate of land transaction tax (LTT) on commercial
land transactions above £1 million is significantly higher than the
equivalent rates for such transactions in England (five per cent) and
Scotland (4.5 per cent). 2.
Notes the Welsh Government’s completion on its circa £12 million purchase of the
Cardiff bus station site on 29 March 2018, thus avoiding its own LTT regime by
three days and ensuring the transaction took place under the UK Government’s
stamp duty land tax. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government, in light of sector representation, to reconsider
the new six per cent LTT rate on commercial land transactions above £1 million
which will have a detrimental impact on economic development in Wales. The following amendments
have been tabled: Amendment 1. Julie
James (Swansea West) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes
that: a)
The rates and bands for land transaction tax were approved by the National
Assembly on 30 January 2018, with no Assembly Members voting against, and that
the rates and bands came into effect on 1 April 2018. b)
The purchase of Cardiff bus station was not liable for any stamp duty land tax
and would have been exempt from land transaction tax if the sale was completed
under that regime. Amendment 2. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Welcomes
the Assembly's new powers to vary tax rates according to Wales's economic,
social and environmental needs. Amendment 3. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to expedite its work to review all property-related
taxes. Minutes: The
item started at 17.00 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6719
Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that the new six per cent rate of land transaction tax (LTT) on
commercial land transactions above £1 million is significantly higher than the
equivalent rates for such transactions in England (five per cent) and
Scotland (4.5 per cent). 2.
Notes the Welsh Government’s completion on its circa £12 million purchase of
the Cardiff bus station site on 29 March 2018, thus avoiding its own LTT regime
by three days and ensuring the transaction took place under the UK Government’s
stamp duty land tax. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government, in light of sector representation, to reconsider
the new six per cent LTT rate on commercial land transactions above £1 million
which will have a detrimental impact on economic development in Wales.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment
1. Julie James (Swansea
West) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes
that: a)
The rates and bands for land transaction tax were approved by the National
Assembly on 30 January 2018, with no Assembly Members voting against, and that
the rates and bands came into effect on 1 April 2018. b)
The purchase of Cardiff bus station was not liable for any stamp duty land tax
and would have been exempt from land transaction tax if the sale was completed
under that regime. A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was agreed. Amendment
2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Welcomes
the Assembly's new powers to vary tax rates according to Wales's economic,
social and environmental needs. A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment
2 was agreed. Amendment
3. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to expedite its work
to review all property-related taxes. A
vote was taken on amendment 3:
Amendment
3 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM6719
Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes
that: a)
The rates and bands for land transaction tax were approved by the National
Assembly on 30 January 2018, with no Assembly Members voting against, and that
the rates and bands came into effect on 1 April 2018. b)
The purchase of Cardiff bus station was not liable for any stamp duty land tax
and would have been exempt from land transaction tax if the sale was completed
under that regime. Welcomes
the Assembly's new powers to vary tax rates according to Wales's economic,
social and environmental needs. Calls on the Welsh Government to expedite its work
to review all property-related taxes.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
United Kingdom Independence Party debate – A minimum price for alcohol NDM6718 Neil
Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes the problems caused by the harmful consumption of alcohol and the
damaging impact that substance misuse has on families and communities. 2.
Believes that: a)
the Welsh Government proposal for minimum unit pricing of alcohol will have a
detrimental financial impact on the poorest people in society; and b)
the suggested value of around 50 pence per alcoholic unit will fail to make any
substantial change to the quantity of alcohol consumed by those who habitually
drink alcohol in large quantities. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to abandon the Public Health (Minimum Price for
Alcohol) (Wales) Bill and do more to tackle alcohol misuse without resorting to
minimum unit pricing. Public
Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales) Bill The following amendments
have been tabled: Amendment 1. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Delete
all after point 1 and replace with: Supports
the general principles of the Public Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales)
Bill. Regrets
the adverse impact that the Bill may have on the budgets of households on low
incomes and that it may lead to the substitution of alcohol for illicit
substances. Supports
amending the Bill, as recommended by the Health, Social Care and Sport
Committee, in order to produce an evaluation report that makes reference to the
impacts of minimum pricing by reference to age group, gender and socio-economic
status, substitution behaviour, domestic violence, impact on support services
and the impact on alcohol retailers. [If amendment 1 is agreed,
amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected] Amendment 2. Julie
James (Swansea West) Delete
all after point 1 and replace with: Notes
the Public Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales) Bill which is currently
being scrutinised by the National Assembly. Notes
a proposed minimum unit price for alcohol is only one of the Welsh Government’s
measures to tackle the harms associated with harmful and hazardous alcohol use
in Wales. Notes
the £50m package of support for people with alcohol and substance use problems
in Wales every year. [If amendment 2 is agreed,
amendment 3 will be de-selected] Amendment 3. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete
all after point 1 and replace with: Notes
that public health measures require the support of the public to be successful
and that, to achieve this, the minimum price needs to be a set a
level that is underpinned by robust research that can demonstrate the
public health impacts, and recognises the need to avoid disproportionately
affecting moderate drinkers on lower incomes. Calls
on the Welsh Government to accompany the legislation with an extensive communications
campaign that explains the aims and purpose of the legislation, including steps
moderate drinkers can take to minimise the financial impact on themselves, for
example through reducing consumption overall or choosing drinks with lower
alcohol content; both of which would bring health benefits. Recognises
the potential benefits of minimum unit alcohol pricing for pubs. Minutes: The
item started at 18.05 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6718
Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes the problems caused by the harmful consumption of alcohol and the
damaging impact that substance misuse has on families and communities. 2.
Believes that: a)
the Welsh Government proposal for minimum unit pricing of alcohol will have a
detrimental financial impact on the poorest people in society; and b)
the suggested value of around 50 pence per alcoholic unit will fail to make any
substantial change to the quantity of alcohol consumed by those who habitually
drink alcohol in large quantities. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to abandon the Public Health (Minimum Price for
Alcohol) (Wales) Bill and do more to tackle alcohol misuse without resorting to
minimum unit pricing.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment
1. Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire) Delete
all after point 1 and replace with: Supports
the general principles of the Public Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales)
Bill. Regrets
the adverse impact that the Bill may have on the budgets of households on low
incomes and that it may lead to the substitution of alcohol for illicit
substances. Supports
amending the Bill, as recommended by the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee,
in order to produce an evaluation report that makes reference to the impacts of
minimum pricing by reference to age group, gender and socio-economic status,
substitution behaviour, domestic violence, impact on support services and the
impact on alcohol retailers. [If
amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected] A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was not agreed. Amendment
2. Julie James (Swansea
West) Delete
all after point 1 and replace with: Notes
the Public Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales) Bill which is currently
being scrutinised by the National Assembly. Notes
a proposed minimum unit price for alcohol is only one of the Welsh Government’s
measures to tackle the harms associated with harmful and hazardous alcohol use
in Wales. Notes
the £50m package of support for people with alcohol and substance use problems
in Wales every year. [If
amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be de-selected] A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment
2 was agreed. As amendment 2 was agreed, amendment 3 was de-selected. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM6718
Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes the problems caused by the harmful consumption of alcohol and the
damaging impact that substance misuse has on families and communities. 2.Notes
the Public Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales) Bill which is currently
being scrutinised by the National Assembly. 3.Notes
a proposed minimum unit price for alcohol is only one of the Welsh Government’s
measures to tackle the harms associated with harmful and hazardous alcohol use
in Wales. 4.Notes
the £50m package of support for people with alcohol and substance use problems
in Wales every year.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The
item started at 18.58 |
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Votes Summary Supporting documents: |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM6713 David
Melding (South Wales Central) Valleys
housing: A heritage worth investing in. Minutes: The
item started at 19.03 NDM6713
David Melding (South
Wales Central) Valleys
housing: A heritage worth investing in. |