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Transcript: Transcript for 09/12/2020 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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This meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some
Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Economy, Transport and North Wales The
Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The
item started at 13.39 The
first 7 questions were asked. Question 9 was withdrawn. Questions 2 and 5 were
answered by the Deputy Minister for Economy and Transport. The Presiding Officer
invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Counsel General and Minister for European Transition (in respect of his European Transition responsibilities) The
Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Minutes: The
item started at 14.28 All
8 questions were asked. Questions 1 and 6 were grouped together for answer. The
Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister
after question 2. |
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(0 mins) |
Topical Questions No Topical Questions were accepted. Minutes: No
Topical Questions were accepted |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The
item started at 15.05 Vikki
Howells made a statement on - Congratulations Mr
Church! David Church is an inspirational Religious Studies teacher at
Mountain Ash Comprehensive School In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at
15.07 the meeting was suspended by the Deputy Presiding Officer. |
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(60 mins) |
Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) - Support for babies and new parents during Covid-19 NDM7462 Lynne
Neagle (Torfaen) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Recognises that the evidence is
unequivocal that the first 1,000 days of a child’s life, from pregnancy to age
two, lay the foundations for a happy and healthy life and that the support and
wellbeing of babies during this time is strongly linked to better outcomes
later in life, including educational achievement, progress at work and better
physical and mental health. 2. Notes that since the outbreak of
COVID-19 and the subsequent lockdown and social distancing measures, a growing
body of research indicates parents are facing unprecedented pressures,
heightened anxieties, and are at increased risk of developing mental health
problems in the perinatal period. 3. Notes that the Babies in Lockdown 2020
survey showed that for 66 per cent of respondents from Wales, parental mental
health was cited as a main concern during lockdown: only 26 per cent felt
confident that they could find help for mental health if they needed it and 69
per cent of parents felt the changes brought on by COVID-19 were affecting
their unborn baby, baby or young child. 4. Notes that the New Parents and COVID-19
2020 research found that over half of the 257 respondents who have given birth
since lockdown felt that their birth experience was more difficult than
expected due to the coronavirus restrictions, more than 60 per cent not
receiving any form of post-natal check-up and almost a quarter wanting
perinatal mental health support.. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure
services and support for families during pregnancy and the perinatal period are
prioritised and that the midwifery, health visiting and perinatal mental health
workforce is protected from redeployment during the pandemic. 6. Calls on the Welsh Government to
proactively work with health boards to ensure women can be safely supported by
their partners during hospital visits during pregnancy. 7. Calls on the Welsh Government to provide
additional ring-fenced investment for perinatal mental health services and
voluntary services to cope with the increase in demand because of COVID-19. Co-submitters Supporters Minutes: The item started at 15.15 Voting
on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time. NDM7462 Lynne Neagle
(Torfaen) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Recognises that the evidence is
unequivocal that the first 1,000 days of a child’s life, from pregnancy to age
two, lay the foundations for a happy and healthy life and that the support and
wellbeing of babies during this time is strongly linked to better outcomes
later in life, including educational achievement, progress at work and better
physical and mental health. 2. Notes that since the outbreak of
COVID-19 and the subsequent lockdown and social distancing measures, a growing
body of research indicates parents are facing unprecedented pressures,
heightened anxieties, and are at increased risk of developing mental health
problems in the perinatal period. 3. Notes that the Babies in Lockdown 2020
survey showed that for 66 per cent of respondents from Wales, parental mental
health was cited as a main concern during lockdown: only 26 per cent felt
confident that they could find help for mental health if they needed it and 69
per cent of parents felt the changes brought on by COVID-19 were affecting
their unborn baby, baby or young child. 4. Notes that the New Parents and COVID-19
2020 research found that over half of the 257 respondents who have given birth
since lockdown felt that their birth experience was more difficult than
expected due to the coronavirus restrictions, more than 60 per cent not
receiving any form of post-natal check-up and almost a quarter wanting
perinatal mental health support.. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure
services and support for families during pregnancy and the perinatal period are
prioritised and that the midwifery, health visiting and perinatal mental health
workforce is protected from redeployment during the pandemic. 6. Calls on the Welsh Government to
proactively work with health boards to ensure women can be safely supported by
their partners during hospital visits during pregnancy. 7. Calls on the Welsh Government to provide
additional ring-fenced investment for perinatal mental health services and
voluntary services to cope with the increase in demand because of COVID-19. Co-submitters Supporters The
result was as follows:
The motion was agreed. |
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(30 mins) |
Debate on Petition P-05-1010 An independent inquiry into the 2020 flooding in Rhondda Cynon Taf so that lessons are learned NDM7502 Janet
Finch-Saunders To propose that the Senedd: Notes the petition ‘P-05-1010 An independent inquiry into the 2020
flooding in Rhondda Cynon Taf so that lessons are learned’ which received 6,017
signatures. Minutes: The item started at
15.17 NDM7502 Janet
Finch-Saunders To propose that the Senedd: Notes the petition ‘P-05-1010 An independent inquiry into the 2020
flooding in Rhondda Cynon Taf so that lessons are learned’ which received 6,017
signatures. The motion was agreed in accordance with
Standing Order 12.36. |
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In
accordance with Standing Order 12.24, items 7-8 were grouped for debate but
with separate votes. |
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In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 16.26 the Presiding Officer
suspended the meeting. |
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Debate: New Coronavirus Restrictions NDM7501 Rebecca Evans (Gower) To propose that the Senedd: Notes: a) the increase in the seven-day rolling
incidence rate of coronavirus cases across Wales; b) the statement by the First Minister on 1
December which set out new national measures to protect public health and
reduce the spread of coronavirus; and c) the £340m
package of business support to be made available through the Economic
Resilience Fund to support businesses affected by the new national measures. The following amendments were tabled: In accordance with Standing Order 12.23
(iii), amendment 1 tabled to the motion was not selected. Amendment 2 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Does not believe that a Wales-wide approach
is proportionate given that COVID-19 is circulating at different rates in
different parts of the country. Amendment 3 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Believes that there is insufficient
evidence to demonstrate that the Welsh Government’s current restrictions on the
sale of alcohol in public houses, cafes and restaurants are proportionate. Amendment 4 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Believes that the financial support
available to businesses affected by the restrictions is insufficient,
especially when firms have spent vast sums on ensuring their premises are COVID
secure for staff and customers. Amendment 5 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish
the evidence on which it based its decision to close indoor entertainment
venues. Amendment 6 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Further calls upon the Welsh Government to
make sufficient financial support available to businesses in a timely manner. In accordance with Standing Order 12.23
(iii), amendments 7, 8 and 9 tabled to the motion were not selected. Amendment 10 Caroline Jones (South Wales West) Add as new point at end of motion: Regrets: a) that the Welsh Government has pursued a
course of action based on very limited evidence of the situation in Wales; b) that the restrictions will have a very
limited impact upon infection rates in Wales; c) that these restrictions will have a
lasting impact on jobs and livelihoods and will cause lasting damage to the
hospitality sector in Wales. Amendment 11 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that, whilst hospitality venues can
remain open, they should not be subject to a complete ban on the sale of alcohol
as currently set out in regulations which came into force on 4 December. Amendment 12 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that the cut-off time on the sale of
alcohol in supermarkets and off-licences should be consistent with the cut-off
time imposed on hospitality venues. Amendment 13 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that hospitality venues should be
allowed to stay open until 8pm. Amendment 14 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to outline: a) the specific objectives it hopes the new
national restrictions outlined in the First Minister’s statement to the Senedd
on 1 December will achieve; and b) what the threshold will be for relaxing
those measures. Amendment 15 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that the latest Welsh Government
technical advisory cell advice, together with all data supporting the policy
decisions taken, should be published alongside or prior to any announcement on
further national coronavirus restrictions. Amendment 16 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that the Welsh Government should
adopt a presumption in favour of holding a meaningful vote in the Senedd to
precede the coming into effect of any further national coronavirus restrictions
of the magnitude outlined in the First Minister’s statement to the Senedd on 1
December. Amendment 17 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to afford the opportunity for opposition parties to make reasonable requests for independent modelling by the technical advisory cell on alternative proposals in relation to matters such as the closure of the hospitality sector and other non-pharmaceutical interventions. Minutes: The item started at 16.35 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. NDM7501 Rebecca Evans
(Gower) To propose that the Senedd: Notes: a) the increase in the seven-day rolling
incidence rate of coronavirus cases across Wales; b) the statement by the First Minister on 1
December which set out new national measures to protect public health and
reduce the spread of coronavirus; and c) the £340m package of business support to
be made available through the Economic Resilience Fund to support businesses
affected by the new national measures. The following amendments were
tabled: In accordance with
Standing Order 12.23 (iii), amendment 1 tabled to the motion has not been selected. Amendment 2 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Does not believe that a Wales-wide approach
is proportionate given that COVID-19 is circulating at different rates in
different parts of the country. A vote
was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was not agreed. Amendment 3 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Believes that there is insufficient
evidence to demonstrate that the Welsh Government’s current restrictions on the
sale of alcohol in public houses, cafes and restaurants are proportionate. A vote
was taken on amendment 3:
Amendment 3 was not agreed. Amendment 4 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Believes that the financial support
available to businesses affected by the restrictions is insufficient, especially
when firms have spent vast sums on ensuring their premises are COVID secure for
staff and customers. A vote
was taken on amendment 4:
Amendment 4 was not agreed. Amendment 5 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish
the evidence on which it based its decision to close indoor entertainment
venues. A vote
was taken on amendment 5:
Amendment 5 was agreed. Amendment 6 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: A vote
was taken on amendment 6:
Amendment 6 was agreed. In accordance with
Standing Order 12.23 (iii), amendments 7, 8 and 9 tabled to the motion were not
been selected. Amendment 10 Caroline Jones
(South Wales West) Add as new point at end of motion: Regrets: a) that the Welsh Government has pursued a
course of action based on very limited evidence of the situation in Wales; b) that the restrictions will have a very
limited impact upon infection rates in Wales; c) that these restrictions will have a
lasting impact on jobs and livelihoods and will cause lasting damage to the
hospitality sector in Wales. A vote
was taken on amendment 10:
Amendment 10 was not agreed. Amendment 11 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that, whilst hospitality venues can
remain open, they should not be subject to a complete ban on the sale of
alcohol as currently set out in regulations which came into force on 4
December. A vote
was taken on amendment 11:
Amendment 11 was not agreed. Amendment 12 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that the cut-off time on the sale of
alcohol in supermarkets and off-licences should be consistent with the cut-off
time imposed on hospitality venues. A vote
was taken on amendment 12:
Amendment 12 was not agreed. Amendment 13 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that hospitality venues should be
allowed to stay open until 8pm. A vote
was taken on amendment 13:
Amendment 13 was not agreed. Amendment 14 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to outline: a) the specific objectives it hopes the new
national restrictions outlined in the First Minister’s statement to the Senedd
on 1 December will achieve; and b) what the threshold will be for relaxing
those measures. A vote
was taken on amendment 14:
Amendment 14 was not agreed. Amendment 15 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that the latest Welsh Government
technical advisory cell advice, together with all data supporting the policy
decisions taken, should be published alongside or prior to any announcement on
further national coronavirus restrictions. A vote
was taken on amendment 15:
Amendment 15 was not agreed. Amendment 16 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Agrees that the Welsh Government should
adopt a presumption in favour of holding a meaningful vote in the Senedd to precede
the coming into effect of any further national coronavirus restrictions of the
magnitude outlined in the First Minister’s statement to the Senedd on 1
December. A vote
was taken on amendment 16:
Amendment 16 was not agreed. Amendment 17 Sian Gwenllian
(Arfon) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to afford the
opportunity for opposition parties to make reasonable requests for independent
modelling by the technical advisory cell on alternative proposals in relation
to matters such as the closure of the hospitality sector and other
non-pharmaceutical interventions. A vote
was taken on amendment 17:
Amendment 17 was not agreed. A vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7501 Rebecca Evans
(Gower) To propose that the Senedd: Notes: a) the increase in the seven-day rolling
incidence rate of coronavirus cases across Wales; b) the statement by the First Minister on 1
December which set out new national measures to protect public health and
reduce the spread of coronavirus; and c) the £340m package of business support to be made available through
the Economic Resilience Fund to support businesses affected by the new national
measures. Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish the evidence on which it
based its decision to close indoor entertainment venues. Further calls upon the Welsh Government to make sufficient financial
support available to businesses in a timely manner.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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Welsh Conservatives Debate – Coronavirus – December Restrictions NDM7505 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the
Senedd: 1. Notes the coronavirus
restrictions imposed on the hospitality and indoor entertainment industries in
Wales from 4 December 2020. 2. Regrets the
adverse impact of the restrictions on Welsh businesses and jobs. 3. Calls upon the
Welsh Government to: a) suspend the restrictions
with immediate effect; and b) adopt a more
proportionate and targeted approach to tackling the coronavirus in Wales. In accordance with Standing Order 12.23(iii), the amendments tabled to
the motion have not been selected. Minutes: The
item started at 16.35 Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred
until Voting Time. A vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7505 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes the coronavirus restrictions
imposed on the hospitality and indoor entertainment industries in Wales from 4
December 2020. 2. Regrets the adverse impact of the
restrictions on Welsh businesses and jobs. 3. Calls upon the Welsh Government to: a) suspend the restrictions with immediate
effect; and b) adopt a more proportionate and targeted
approach to tackling the coronavirus in Wales. In accordance with
Standing Order 12.23(iii), the amendments tabled to the motion have not been
selected.
The motion without amendment was not agreed. |
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Standards of Conduct Committee report – Report 03-20 NDM7503 Jayne
Bryant (Newport West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Considers the Report of the Standards of
Conduct Committee - Report 03-20 laid before the Senedd on 2 December 2020 in
accordance with Standing Order 22.9. 2. Endorses the recommendation in the
report that a breach has been found. 3. Resolves that for a period of 21 days,
excluding days while the Senedd is in recess, commencing with the passing of
this motion and ending no later than midnight on 21 January 2020 that: a) the Member’s rights and privileges of
access to the Senedd and Ty Hywel shall be withdrawn under Standing Order 22.10
(ii); b) the Member shall be excluded from any
Senedd proceedings under Standing Order 20.10(iii), and c) the Member shall not be entitled to any salary from the Senedd in respect of the days to which paragraphs a. and b. above apply, in accordance with Standing Order 22.10A. Minutes: The item started at 18.47 Voting
on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time. NDM7503 Jayne Bryant
(Newport West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Considers the Report of the Standards of
Conduct Committee - Report 03-20 laid before the Senedd
on 2 December 2020 in accordance with Standing Order 22.9. 2. Endorses the recommendation in the
report that a breach has been found. 3. Resolves that for a period of 21 days,
excluding days while the Senedd is in recess, commencing with the passing of
this motion and ending no later than midnight on 21 January 2021 that: a) the Member’s rights and privileges of
access to the Senedd and Ty Hywel shall be withdrawn under Standing Order 22.10
(ii); b) the Member shall be excluded from any
Senedd proceedings under Standing Order 20.10(iii), and c) the Member shall not be entitled to any
salary from the Senedd in respect of the days to which paragraphs a. and b.
above apply, in accordance with Standing Order 22.10A. The
result was as follows:
The motion was agreed. |
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A
procedural motion to postpone the Andrew RT Davies’ Short Debate to Wednesday
16 December 2020 was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: In accordance with
Standing Order 12.18, at 19.03 proceedings were suspended to allow a technical
break before voting time. The item started at
19.10 |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM7504 Andrew
R.T. Davies (South Wales Central) The importance of fans at sporting events for the social fabric of our communities. Minutes: The item was
postponed to 16 December 2020 NDM7504 Andrew R.T.
Davies (South Wales Central) The importance of fans at sporting events
for the social fabric of our communities. |