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Record of Proceedings View the Record
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Nominations for committee chairs The item started at
13.30 The Presiding
Officer invited nominations for the chairs of the following committees in
accordance with Standing Order 17.2F: (i) Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee Dawn Bowden
nominated Mike Hedges. Jeremy Miles seconded the nomination. As there was only
one nomination and no objections to the nomination, the Presiding Officer
declared that Mike Hedges was elected as Chair of the Climate Change,
Environment and Rural Affairs Committee. (ii) Petitions Committee Neil Hamilton
nominated David Rowlands. As there was only one nomination and no objections to the nomination,
the Presiding Officer declared that David Rowlands was elected as Chair of the
Petitions Committee. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Infrastructure The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The
item started at 13.33 The first 8 questions
were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2. |
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Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Well-being and Sport The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 3. Minutes: The
item started at 14.21 Question
1 and questions 3-6 were asked. Question 2 was withdrawn. Questions 1 and 3
were answered by the Minister for Social Services and Public Health. The
Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Cabinet
Secretary after Question 3. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To the Cabinet
Secretary for Education: Darren
Millar (Clwyd West): Will the Cabinet Secretary confirm what the
Government’s targets are for the 2018 PISA assessment? To the Cabinet
Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Sport: Angela
Burns (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire):
Will the Cabinet Secretary make a statement on the commercial access deal
struck between NHS Wales and Roche, which will mean that breast cancer patients
in Wales can access the Kadcyla drug? Minutes: The item started at 15.08 To
the Cabinet
Secretary for Education: Darren
Millar (Clwyd West): Will the Cabinet Secretary confirm what the
Government’s targets are for the 2018 PISA assessment? To
the Cabinet Secretary for
Health, Wellbeing and Sport: Angela
Burns (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire):
Will the Cabinet Secretary make a statement on the commercial access deal
struck between NHS Wales and Roche, which will mean that breast cancer patients
in Wales can access the Kadcyla drug? |
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90 Second Statements Minutes: The
item started at 15.25 Rhun
ap Iorwerth made a statement on the Wales Wheelchair Rugby League team. Neil Hamilton made a statement on the Her Majesty the
Queen’s Official State Birthday. |
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(10 mins) |
Proposal under Standing Order 12.24 to debate the following items together but with separate votes: It was agreed under Standing Order 12.24 that the
following two items would be debated together but with separate votes. The item started at 15.29 |
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Motion to amend Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27 in relation to the Budget Process and Finance Procedures NDM6332 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2: 1.
Considers the Report of the Business Committee 'Amending Standing Orders:
Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27 – Budget Process and Finance Procedures' laid
in the Table Office on 14.06.17; and 2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Orders 16,
19, 20 and 27, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee. Minutes: NDM6332 Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2: 1.
Considers the Report of the Business Committee 'Amending Standing Orders:
Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27 – Budget Process and Finance Procedures' laid in the Table Office on 14.06.17; and 2.
Approves the proposal to revise Standing Orders 16, 19, 20 and 27, as set out
in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee. The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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Motion to approve the budget protocol agreed by the Finance Committee and the Welsh Government NDM6333 Simon
Thomas (Mid and West Wales) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Approves the protocol on the administrative
arrangements for the scrutiny of the annual draft budget and other related
budgetary matters agreed by the Finance Committee and the Welsh Government, laid
in the Table Office on 13 June 2017. Minutes: NDM6333 Simon Thomas (Mid and
West Wales) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Approves
the protocol on the administrative arrangements for the scrutiny of the annual
draft budget and other related budgetary matters agreed by the Finance
Committee and the Welsh Government, laid in the Table Office on 13 June 2017. The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing
Order 12.36. |
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Debate on the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee Report on their inquiry into refugees and asylum seekers in Wales NDM6334 John
Griffiths (Newport East) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes
the report of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee on the
inquiry into refugees and asylum seekers in Wales, which was laid
in the Table Office on 6 April 2017. Note: The response of the Cabinet Secretary for
Communities and Children to the report was laid
in the Table Office on 14 June 2017. Minutes: The item started at 15.35 NDM6334
John
Griffiths (Newport East) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes
the report of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee on the
inquiry into refugees and asylum seekers in Wales, which was laid
in the Table Office on 6 April 2017. The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing
Order 12.36. |
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Plaid Cymru debate NDM6336 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Asserts itself as the national parliament of Wales. 2.
Demands that all powers and resources currently exercised at the EU level
within areas of devolved competence are to be exercised by the National
Assembly for Wales after the UK leaves the European Union. 3.
Further demands that the UK Government seeks the endorsement of the National
Assembly for Wales for all future trade deals with the EU and other countries
around the world in order to protect the interests of the Welsh economy. The following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Delete
point 2 and replace with: Notes
the UK Government's Policy Paper 'The United Kingdom's exit from, and new
partnership with, the European Union' which states that "we have already
committed that no decisions currently taken by the devolved administrations
will be removed from them and we will use the opportunity of bringing decision
making back to the UK to ensure that more decisions are devolved". 'The
United Kingdom's exit from, and new partnership with, the European Union' Amendment 2. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Delete
point 3 and replace with: Notes that the Prime Minister has been very clear that
she wants a bespoke deal that works for the whole of the UK, embracing the most
tariff and barrier-free trade possible with our European neighbours through a
new, comprehensive, bold and ambitious free trade agreement. Minutes: The
item started at 16.33 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until voting time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6336
Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Asserts itself as the national parliament of Wales. 2.
Demands that all powers and resources currently exercised at the EU level
within areas of devolved competence are to be exercised by the National
Assembly for Wales after the UK leaves the European Union. 3.
Further demands that the UK Government seeks the endorsement of the National
Assembly for Wales for all future trade deals with the EU and other countries
around the world in order to protect the interests of the Welsh economy.
The
motion without amendment was agreed. |
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United Kingdom Independence Party debate NDM6335 Neil
Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) David
Rowlands (South Wales East) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes the Bank of England working paper, The Impact of Immigration on
Occupational Wages, and its conclusion that a 10 per cent increase in the
proportion of migrants working in semi and unskilled jobs leads, on average, to
a 2 per cent cut in wages in those jobs in a particular region. 2.
Believes that: a)
a controlled and fair immigration system, placing emphasis on skilled
migration, would have significant benefits for the UK economy; b)
public institutions, such as the National Health Service currently depend upon
skilled migration from both outside and inside the European Union; c)
uncontrolled, and largely unskilled, immigration from the European Union member
states at the current levels is unsustainable; d)
current UK immigration policy gives migrants discrimination in favour of EU
nationals to the disadvantage of those from other parts of the world. 3.
Calls on the UK Government to introduce a firm but fair system of immigration
control which: a)
does not discriminate against non-EU citizens; b)
does not replicate in substance, or in fact, the existing EU or EEA regime for
free movement of workers; and c)
seeks to balance immigration and emigration over a five year period. 'The
Impact of Immigration on Occupational Wages: evidence from Britain' The following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Believes that Britain and Wales has an open economy and a welcoming society,
with immigration playing a significant part in sustaining and developing a
modern economy in the 21st century. 2.
Recognises the UK Government's commitment to ensure that our public services,
businesses and world-class universities can continue to recruit the brightest
and best from around the world. 3.
Welcomes the UK Government's intention to develop accountability and control
within the country's immigration system. [If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be
de-selected] Amendment 2. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that analysis conducted by the London School of Economics' Centre for
Economic Performance concluded that there is very little evidence to suggest
that neither immigration as a whole nor EU immigration has had significantly
large negative effects on employment, wages and wage inequality for the UK-born
population. 2.
Believes that the rights and privileges afforded to UK and EU citizens
currently living and working in other EU member states should be protected. 3.
Believes that a creation of a Welsh Migration Advisory Service that could issue
Welsh specific visas is necessary to plug skills gaps in the Welsh economy. 4.
Calls upon the UK Government to guarantee the rights of all EU citizens
currently living and working in the UK following Brexit. 5.
Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish a consultation on how a Welsh work
permit system could benefit the Welsh economy. 'London School of Economics'
Centre for Economic Performance' [If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be
de-selected] Amendment 3. Jane
Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Reaffirms support for the joint Welsh Government/Plaid Cymru White Paper
Securing Wales' Future which balances jobs and the economy with the need to
address concerns about the impact of migration on vulnerable communities. 2.
Supports the approach set out in Securing Wales' Future: a)
to link the right of EU/EEA nationals to move to the UK after Brexit, to
employment; and b)
to increase efforts to prevent the exploitation of workers, particularly those
on low pay. Minutes: The
item started at 17.24 Voting on the motion and amendments under
this item was deferred until voting time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6335 Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales) David Rowlands (South
Wales East) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1. Notes the Bank of England working paper, The Impact
of Immigration on Occupational Wages, and its conclusion that a 10 per cent
increase in the proportion of migrants working in semi and unskilled jobs
leads, on average, to a 2 per cent cut in wages in those jobs in a particular
region. 2. Believes that: a) a controlled and fair immigration system, placing
emphasis on skilled migration, would have significant benefits for the UK
economy; b) public institutions, such as the National Health
Service currently depend upon skilled migration from both outside and inside
the European Union; c) uncontrolled, and largely unskilled, immigration
from the European Union member states at the current levels is unsustainable; d) current UK immigration policy gives migrants
discrimination in favour of EU nationals to the disadvantage of those from
other parts of the world. 3. Calls on the UK Government to introduce a firm
but fair system of immigration control which: a) does not discriminate against non-EU citizens; b) does not replicate in substance, or in fact, the
existing EU or EEA regime for free movement of workers; and c) seeks to balance immigration and emigration over
a five year period.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Believes that Britain and Wales has an open economy and a welcoming society,
with immigration playing a significant part in sustaining and developing a
modern economy in the 21st century. 2.
Recognises the UK Government's commitment to ensure that our public services,
businesses and world-class universities can continue to recruit the brightest
and best from around the world. 3.
Welcomes the UK Government's intention to develop accountability and control
within the country's immigration system. A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was not agreed. Amendment 2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that analysis conducted by the London School of Economics' Centre for
Economic Performance concluded that there is very little evidence to suggest
that neither immigration as a whole nor EU immigration has had significantly
large negative effects on employment, wages and wage inequality for the UK-born
population. 2.
Believes that the rights and privileges afforded to UK and EU citizens
currently living and working in other EU member states should be protected. 3.
Believes that a creation of a Welsh Migration Advisory Service that could issue
Welsh specific visas is necessary to plug skills gaps in the Welsh economy. 4.
Calls upon the UK Government to guarantee the rights of all EU citizens
currently living and working in the UK following Brexit. 5.
Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish a consultation on how a Welsh work
permit system could benefit the Welsh economy. A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment
2 was not agreed. Amendment 3. Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan
Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Reaffirms support for the joint Welsh Government/Plaid Cymru White Paper
Securing Wales' Future which balances jobs and the economy with the need to
address concerns about the impact of migration on vulnerable communities. 2.
Supports the approach set out in Securing Wales' Future: a)
to link the right of EU/EEA nationals to move to the UK after Brexit, to
employment; and b)
to increase efforts to prevent the exploitation of workers, particularly those
on low pay. A
vote was taken on amendment 3:
Amendment
3 was agreed. A vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM6335 Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales) David Rowlands (South
Wales East) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Reaffirms support for the joint Welsh Government/Plaid Cymru White Paper
Securing Wales' Future which balances jobs and the economy with the need to
address concerns about the impact of migration on vulnerable communities. 2.
Supports the approach set out in Securing Wales' Future: a)
to link the right of EU/EEA nationals to move to the UK after Brexit, to
employment; and b)
to increase efforts to prevent the exploitation of workers, particularly those
on low pay.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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Motions to agree membership of committees The
item started at 18.14 In
accordance with Standing Order 12.24 it was agreed to group the following
motions for debate and in accordance with Standing Order 12.40 it was agreed to
group the votes on the motion. NDM6341 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order
17.3, elects Gareth Bennett (United Kingdom Independence Party) as a Member of
the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee in place of Vikki
Howells (Labour); NDM6342 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order
17.3, elects Mike Hedges (Labour) as a Member of the Petitions Committee in
place of Gareth Bennett (United Kingdom Independence Party). NDM6343 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order
17.14, elects Vikki Howells (Labour) as a Member of the Public Accounts
Committee in place of Mike Hedges (Labour). NDM6344 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order
17.14, elects Gareth Bennett (United Kingdom Independence Party) as a Member of
the Business Committee in place of David Rowlands (United Kingdom Independence
Party). NDM6345 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing
Orders 17.3 and 17.13(ii), elects Neil Hamilton (United Kingdom Independence
Party) as a Member of the Finance Committee. NDM6346 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing
Orders 17.3 and 17.13(ii), elects David Rowlands (United Kingdom Independence
Party) as a Member of the Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister. The motions were agreed in accordance with Standing
Order 12.36. |
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Voting time Minutes: The
item started at 18.15 |
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Votes Summary Supporting documents: |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM6331 Vikki
Howells (Cynon Valley) The multifaceted challenges posed by poverty in Wales Minutes: The
item started at 18.19 NDM6331
Vikki
Howells (Cynon Valley) The multifaceted challenges posed by poverty in Wales |