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Trade Union (Wales) Act 2017

This page gives details of any meetings held which will, or did, discuss the matter, and includes links to the relevant Papers, Agendas and Minutes.

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Meeting: 18/07/2017 - Plenary (Item 11)

Debate: Stage 4 of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

NDM6372 Mark Drakeford (Cardiff West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.47:

Approves the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

'Trade Union (Wales) Bill'

 

Supporting Documents
Trade Union (Wales) Bill
Explanatory Memorandum

Minutes:

The item started at 19.19

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until voting time.

NDM6372 Mark Drakeford (Cardiff West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.47:

Approves the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.

A vote was taken on the motion:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

38

0

13

51

The motion was agreed.


Meeting: 11/07/2017 - Plenary (Item 8)

Debate: Stage 3 on the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate arise in the Bill.

 

The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

 

1. Restriction on deduction of union subscriptions from wages in public sector

1

 

2. Publication requirements in relation to facility time

2

 

3. Requirement relating to ballot before action by trade union and removing definitions of devolved Welsh authorities

3, 4, 5

 

4. Prohibition on using temporary workers to cover industrial action

6, 7

 

5. Coming into force

8

 

 

Supporting Documents
Trade Union (Wales) Bill
Explanatory Memorandum

Marshalled List of Amendments

Groupings of Amendments

Minutes:

The item started at 18.53

In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, the amendments were disposed of in the order in which the sections and schedules to which they relate arise in the Bill.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

0

43

55

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

0

43

55

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

0

43

55

Amendment 3 was not agreed.

Amendment 4 was not moved.

Amendment 5 was not moved.

A vote was taken on amendment 6:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

0

42

54

Amendment 6 was not agreed.

Amendment 7 was not moved.

A vote was taken on amendment 8:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

12

0

42

54

Amendment 8 was not agreed.

All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.


Meeting: 15/06/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 2)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - stage 2 proceedings

Mark Drakeford AM, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

Paul Webb, Senior Responsible Officer, Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Nicola Charles, Lawyer

 

Documents relevant to Stage 2 proceedings are available on the Bill page.

Minutes:

2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

 

Amendment 1 (Janet Finch-Saunders)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 2 (Janet Finch-Saunders)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 3 (Janet Finch-Saunders)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders

John Griffiths

 

 

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

Amendment 3 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 4 (Mark Drakeford)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 

Janet Finch-Saunders

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

 

Amendment 4 was agreed.

 

Amendment 5 (Mark Drakeford)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 

Janet Finch-Saunders

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

 

Amendment 5 was agreed.

 

Amendment 6 (Mark Drakeford)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

 

Janet Finch-Saunders

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

 

Amendment 6 was agreed.

 

Amendment 7 (Mark Drakeford)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Janet Finch-Saunders

 

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

 

Amendment 7 was agreed.

 

Amendment 8 (Mark Drakeford)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Janet Finch-Saunders

 

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

 

Amendment 8 was agreed.

 

Amendment 9 (Mark Drakeford)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths

Janet Finch-Saunders

 

Gareth Bennett

 

 

Siân Gwenllian

 

 

Jenny Rathbone

 

 

Bethan Jenkins

 

 

Joyce Watson

 

 

Rhianon Passmore

 

 

Amendment 9 was agreed.

 

2.2 The Chair confirmed that all sections of the Bill have been deemed agreed, completing Stage 2 proceedings.


Meeting: 09/05/2017 - Plenary (Item 3)

Debate on the General Principles of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

NDM6298 Mark Drakeford (Cardiff West)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.11:

 

Agrees to the general principles of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.

The Trade Union (Wales) Bill and Explanatory Memorandum were laid before the Assembly on 16 January 2017.

 

The report of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee on the Trade Union (Wales) Bill was laid before the Assembly on 7 April 2017.

Supporting Documents
Report of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee
 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 14.30

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until voting time.

NDM6298 Mark Drakeford (Cardiff West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 26.11:

Agrees to the general principles of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

36

1

11

48

The motion was agreed.


Meeting: 09/05/2017 - Plenary (Item 4)

Motion to approve the financial resolution in respect of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

NDM6299 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any provisions resulting from the Trade Union (Wales) Bill, agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69, arising in consequence of the Bill.

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.26

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until voting time.

NDM6299 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any provisions resulting from the Trade Union (Wales) Bill, agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69, arising in consequence of the Bill.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

37

1

11

49

The motion was agreed.


Meeting: 06/04/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 4)

4 Additional information from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government in relation to the Agency Worker

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1.a The Committee noted the additional information from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government in relation to the Agency Worker.


Meeting: 03/04/2017 - Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee (Item 6)

6 Trade Union (Wales) Bill: Correspondence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

CLA(5)-11-17 – Paper 9 – Correspondence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government to the Chair, 27 March 2017

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

6.1a The Committee noted the correspondence.


Meeting: 03/04/2017 - Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee (Item 10)

10 Trade Union (Wales) Bill: Draft report

CLA(5)-11-17 – Paper 12 – Draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

10.1 The Committee agreed the draft report.


Meeting: 29/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 8)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - consideration of draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1. The Committee considered and agreed its draft report, subject to minor changes.


Meeting: 29/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 4)

4 Note of focus group discussions in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.8.a The Committee noted the note of focus group discussions in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 29/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 4)

4 Letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government to the Chair of Finance Committee in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.2.a The Committee noted the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government to the Chair of Finance Committee in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 27/03/2017 - Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee (Item 8)

8 Trade Union (Wales) Bill: Draft report

CLA(5)-10-17 – Paper 11 – Draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee considered the draft report.

8.2 The Committee agreed to consider a further draft at its next meeting.


Meeting: 23/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 1)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - Consideration of the draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

1.1. The Committee considered its draft report on the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 09/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 2)

2 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 7: Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

·         Mark Drakeford AM, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

·         Paul Webb, Senior Responsible Officer, Trade Union (Wales) Bill

·         Nicola Charles, Lawyer

 

Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Explanatory Memorandum

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The Committee received evidence from:

 

Mark Drakeford AM, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

Paul Webb, Senior Responsible Officer, Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Nicola Charles, Lawyer


Meeting: 09/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 6)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - consideration of key issues

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee discussed the key issues for inclusion in its report.  


Meeting: 09/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 3)

3 Letter from the Chair of the Finance Committee to the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.7.a The Committee noted the letter from the Chair of the Finance Committee to the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 09/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 5)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - consideration of evidence received under item 2

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee discussed the evidence received under item 2.


Meeting: 06/03/2017 - Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee (Item 2)

2 Trade Union (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

Mark Drakeford, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government (Member in charge of the Bill)

Paul Webb, Senior Responsible Officer, Trade Union (Wales) Bill, Welsh Government

Nicola Charles, Lawyer, Welsh Government

 

CLA(5)-07-17 – Research Service and Legal Services briefing

CLA(5)-07-17 – Legal Advice Note

CLA(5)-07-17 Paper 1 – Correspondence from the Llywydd to the Chair of the Committee, 16 January 2017

CLA(5)-07-17 Paper 2 – Correspondence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government to the Chair of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee, 15 February 2017

 

Trade Union (Wales) Bill, as introduced (PDF, 59KB)

Explanatory Memorandum (PDF, 691KB)

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The Committee took evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, Mark Drakeford AM.


Meeting: 06/03/2017 - Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee (Item 6)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill: Consideration of evidence

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.


Meeting: 01/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 6)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - consideration of evidence received under items 2 and 3

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee discussed the evidence received under items 2 and 3. 


Meeting: 01/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 2)

2 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 5

·         Claire Vaughan, Executive Director of Workforce and Organisational Development, Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust

·         Sarah Morley, Executive Director of Organisational Development & Workforce, Velindre NHS Trust

·         Kate Lorenti, Acting Director of HR, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board

·         Joanna Davies, Director of Workforce and Organisational Development, Cwm Taf University Health Board

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The Committee received evidence from:

 

·         Claire Vaughan, Executive Director of Workforce and Organisational Development, Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust

·         Sarah Morley, Executive Director of Organisational Development& Workforce, Velindre NHS Trust

·         Kate Lorenti, Acting Director of HR, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board

·         Joanna Davies, Director of Workforce and Organisational Development, Cwm Taf University Health Board

 

2.2 The Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust agreed to provide:

·         a note on the number of employees paying union subscriptions by deduction of union subscriptions from wages (‘check-off’), and on the administrative costs involved;

·         a note to clarify the factors they would expect to be considered when determining the cost of disapplying the 40%ballot threshold requirement to the health service.


Meeting: 01/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 4)

4 Correspondence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.2 The Committee noted the correspondence from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government in relation to the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 01/03/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 3)

3 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 6

·         Councillor Tudor Davies, Chair, South Wales Fire and Rescue Authority

·         Phil Haynes, Director of People Services, South Wales Fire and Rescue Authority

·         Councillor Suzanne Paddison, Fire Authority Member, Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service

·         Kevin Jones, HR Lead and Director of Resources, Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service

·         Gary Brandrick, Assistant Chief Fire Officer, North Wales Fire and Rescue Authority

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 The Committee received evidence from:

 

·         Councillor Tudor Davies, Chair, South Wales Fire and Rescue Authority

·         Phil Haynes, Director of People Services, South Wales Fire and Rescue Authority

·         Councillor Suzanne Paddison, Fire Authority Member, Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service

·         Kevin Jones, HR Lead and Director of Resources, Mid and West Wales Fire and Rescue Service

·         Gary Brandrick, Assistant Chief Fire Officer, North Wales Fire and Rescue Authority

 

3.2 The North Wales Fire and Rescue Authority agreed to provide a note from their Finance Department on the costs involved in the deduction of union subscriptions from wages (‘check-off’).


Meeting: 16/02/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 7)

7 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 4

·         Margaret Thomas, Vice President, Wales TUC Cymru

·         Martin Mansfield, General Secretary, Wales TUC Cymru

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

7.1. The Committee received evidence from:

 

·         Margaret Thomas, Vice President, Wales TUC Cymru

·         Martin Mansfield, General Secretary, Wales TUC Cymru


Meeting: 16/02/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 6)

6 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 3

·         Dr Stephen Monaghan, Chair of the BMA Welsh Council’s Legislation Subcommittee

·         Andrew Cross, Assistant Secretary, BMA Cymru Wales

·         Peter Meredith-Smith, Associate Director

·         Lisa Turnbull, Policy & Public Affairs Adviser, Royal College of Nursing,

·         Lien Watts, Assistant General Secretary, The Social Workers Union

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

6.1. The Committee received evidence from:

 

·         Dr Stephen Monaghan, Chair of the BMA Welsh Council’s Legislation Subcommittee

·         Andrew Cross, Assistant Secretary, BMA Cymru Wales

·         Peter Meredith-Smith, Associate Director

·         Lisa Turnbull, Policy & Public Affairs Adviser, Royal College of Nursing,

·         Lien Watts, Assistant General Secretary, The Social Workers Union


Meeting: 16/02/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 5)

5 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 2

·         Steve Thomas, Chief Executive, Welsh Local Government, 

·         Jonathan Lloyd, Head of Employment, Welsh Local Government Association

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1. The Committee received evidence from

 

·         Steve Thomas, Chief Executive, Welsh Local Government,

·         Jonathan Lloyd, Head of Employment, Welsh Local Government Association


Meeting: 16/02/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 10)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - consideration of evidence received under items 5, 6 and 7

Minutes:

10.1. The Committee discussed the evidence received under items 5,6 and 7.


Meeting: 08/02/2017 - Finance Committee (Item 8)

8 Financial Implications of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Paper 2 – Research briefing on Financial Scrutiny of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee considered the financial implications of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill and agreed to write to the Cabinet Secretary.


Meeting: 02/02/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 7)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - consideration of evidence under item 2

Minutes:

7.1. The Committee discussed the evidence received under item 2.


Meeting: 02/02/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 2)

2 Trade Union (Wales) Bill - evidence session 1: Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

Mark Drakeford AM, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

Paul Webb, Deputy Director, Devolved Services Reform

Nicola Charles, Lawyer

 

Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Explanatory Memorandum

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1. The Committee received evidence from:

 

·         Mark Drakeford AM, Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government

·         Paul Webb, Deputy Director, Devolved Services Reform

·         Nicola Charles, Lawyer

 

2.2.    The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government declared a relevant interest as a member of a union.

 

2.3. During the session, the Cabinet Secretary agreed to provide clarification on the extent to which the Bill would affect those who provide public services on behalf of devolved Welsh authorities as well as those authorities and their own employees.


Meeting: 19/01/2017 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 6)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill - Briefing from Assembly Commission Legal Services

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee received a briefing from the Assembly Commission Legal Services on the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 15/12/2016 - Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (Item 8)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill: Consideration of approach to scrutiny

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1. The following Members declared relevant interests as members of unions:

·         John Griffiths AM;

·         Siân Gwenllian AM;

·         Jenny Rathbone AM.

 

8.2. The Committee agreed its approach to Stage 1 scrutiny of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill.


Meeting: 13/12/2016 - Business Committee (Item 4)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

  • Restricted enclosure 117

Minutes:

Business Managers confirmed their in principle decision of 6 December to refer the Trade Union (Wales) Bill to the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee for Stage 1 consideration, and agreed the deadline for the Stage 1 Committee to report by as 7 April 2017 and the deadline for the completion of Stage 2 Committee proceedings as 16 June 2017.


Meeting: 06/12/2016 - Business Committee (Item 4)

Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

  • Restricted enclosure 120

Minutes:

Business Managers agreed in principle to refer the Trade Union (Wales) Bill to the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee (ELGC) for Stage 1 consideration.

 

Business Managers agreed to defer a decision on the Bill’s timetable until a future meeting to allow for consultation with the ELGC Committee.

 

Paul Davies raised the issue of the Assembly’s competence to deal with this piece of legislation and the Llywydd confirmed that this would be referred to her for consideration prior to the Bill’s introduction as usual.


 

 

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