Consultation on the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill
Tystiolaeth i’r Pwyllgor Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg ar gyfer craffu Cyfnod 1 Bil Plant (Diddymu Amddiffyniad Cosb Resymol) (Cymru) |
Evidence submitted to the Children, Young People and Education Committee for Stage 1 scrutiny of the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill |
CADRP-132 |
CADRP-132 |
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— No
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Physical/Mental (deliberate) hurting of children "child abuse"is extensively covered in Law with wide prosecution. This bill is confusing definitions of hurting, with disciplining. Abuse is a selfish act(s) of hurt and pain. Discipline is controlled where the motive is for the good of the child.
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No.
Parental discipline is distinct from cruelty and hurt. The state via agencies such as Social Service departments of Local Authorities do not exist to "police" normal family life.
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Refer to clear mandates from public surveys that do not endorse this bill and do not support the theoretical and philosophical basis that forms the "backstory" to the progression of the bill. This democratic barrier should be enough to stop further movement of this bill.
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Time alone will tell. Democracy can be challenging because on occasion (it) says "NO".
Thinkers and Politicians alike, think that you help people by stopping "this and that" but forget to truly think it through and refer back to extensive historical legislation and evidence, and want to show they are doing "good" things and earning their healthy salaries etc.
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Workload for enforcing agencies including Courts Service,Probation Service,Social Service,Police,School staff,neighbours in your street; everyone watching all parents and the moment there is comment and suspicion of some "act" or other all these professional staff have to investigate (time and money). A myriad "can of worms".
Who did what. Who said what. Write the report.
It could well compromise the investigation of actual hurting of young people by their parent or guardian.
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All investigations have costs. Public spending should be used correctly, appropriately and efficiently.
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The thinking beneath this bill is confusing hurt with discipline. It is unsophisticated in its premise. Its philosophy is flawed. A child is not an adult and,hence,cannot be reasoned with as an adult. Smacking is not done for the satisfaction of the adult in the way that cruelty can be. The motivation and aim is entirely different; one is founded within love, the other founded in pleasure. One is altruistic, the other is not.
Definition here is important, as is understanding meanings.